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Old 03-01-2016, 03:23 PM
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Deposit is down already! Crossing my fingers.
Old 03-01-2016, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by karimgt3
So if the .2Gt3 gets current RS engine with 4.0 500hp and manual, what's the 911R for?
People need to consider that every new generation is " better " than the last. The 911R is the last " Hurrrraaaah " of the 991.1 body. The 991.2 GT3 will be a .2 body and have all of the .2 body upgrades. Following your logic,people that have a 997.2 RS 4.0 should be pissed because the 991.1 GT3RS is 500 HP and faster...
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Originally Posted by karimgt3
So if the .2Gt3 gets current RS engine with 4.0 500hp and manual, what's the 911R for?
^ Isn't it obvious? The R is for all the 918 owners (or people who will pay $100k over for an allocation) who wanna buy a car, shrink-wrap it and sell it for double the money to crazy people in a few years!

GT3 is for people who only wanna pay $50k over
Old 03-01-2016, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by karimgt3
So if the .2Gt3 gets current RS engine with 4.0 500hp and manual, what's the 911R for?
My bet is that the .2 gets the transmission option, but not the engine.
Old 03-01-2016, 08:06 PM
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Hopefully it will bring the 997 GT3 prices back down to 2012-13 levels.
Old 03-01-2016, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloose993TT
Hopefully it will bring the 997 GT3 prices back down to 2012-13 levels.
It will. The prices shot through the roof in December 2013 - when the PDK only GT3 was a 100% possibility. I am not selling my 997.1 ever, but I am sure some will start dumping their cars for the 991.2 GT3.

The only manual that Porsche has had that can handle the sheer power of the Mezger engines is the G50, and given the time that they had to develop the 991 R, I am sure it is still the G50. Brilliant transmission from the 996 Cup car. Hoping that the 991.2 gets it. For the most part, Porsche listened to us manual only guys.
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I fully expect the R, .2GT3, and .2RS will all have the latest manual tranny "tidbits" that they provided with the GT4.

Self-adjusting pressure plate, clutch-stop (to control dumping), and auto downshift rev-match. We might even see dual-mass flywheels the RS, just the lightest one.

It will cut down on their pre-mature warranty repairs from track abuse exponentially......
Old 03-01-2016, 10:40 PM
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Prices for 997RS will only climb, the 991 no matter what transmission is still luxo, large and as AP put it "driving an I-phone". Even the "purist" 991R still retained the 4wheel steering (not talked about but I am sure it has electric steering as well) as with all future GT.

997gt3 might stabilize but there is never going to be anything close to a 997RS ever again and with its low production numbers will or already has founds its to owners who have no intention of letting them go, especially for any future gt3 even if manual.


Originally Posted by 997s07
It will. The prices shot through the roof in December 2013 - when the PDK only GT3 was a 100% possibility. I am not selling my 997.1 ever, but I am sure some will start dumping their cars for the 991.2 GT3. The only manual that Porsche has had that can handle the sheer power of the Mezger engines is the G50, and given the time that they had to develop the 991 R, I am sure it is still the G50. Brilliant transmission from the 996 Cup car. Hoping that the 991.2 gets it. For the most part, Porsche listened to us manual only guys.
Old 03-01-2016, 11:27 PM
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It will be interesting to see what happens to the 997gt3 market if gen2 991gt3 will be offered with MT as option.
The R is so limited (especially US market 265 cars) it won't affect the values of 997.

I think we will see a market correction on 997.3 if 991.3 gen 2 will be offered with MT.

Same goes for 997rs if 991.2RS will be offered with MT as option.
Old 03-01-2016, 11:44 PM
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All we can do is let our opinions simmer for awhile and see, but again the 991 is an entirely different 911 regardless if a manual transmission offered or not, you know this.

Originally Posted by 997rs4.0
It will be interesting to see what happens to the 997gt3 market if gen2 991gt3 will be offered with MT as option. The R is so limited (especially US market 265 cars) it won't affect the values of 997. I think we will see a market correction on 997.3 if 991.3 gen 2 will be offered with MT. Same goes for 997rs if 991.2RS will be offered with MT as option.
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Originally Posted by FLT6SPD
Prices for 997RS will only climb, the 991 no matter what transmission is still luxo, large and as AP put it "driving an I-phone". Even the "purist" 991R still retained the 4wheel steering (not talked about but I am sure it has electric steering as well) as with all future GT.

997gt3 might stabilize but there is never going to be anything close to a 997RS ever again and with its low production numbers will or already has founds its to owners who have no intention of letting them go, especially for any future gt3 even if manual.
4.0 RS engine with 500hp and a manual sounds pretty good to me. I'd take that over a 997.2 GT3 RS anyday.
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Originally Posted by drdonger
4.0 RS engine with 500hp and a manual sounds pretty good to me. I'd take that over a 997.2 GT3 RS anyday.
+1
Old 03-02-2016, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FLT6SPD
Prices for 997RS will only climb, the 991 no matter what transmission is still luxo, large and as AP put it "driving an I-phone". Even the "purist" 991R still retained the 4wheel steering (not talked about but I am sure it has electric steering as well) as with all future GT.

997gt3 might stabilize but there is never going to be anything close to a 997RS ever again and with its low production numbers will or already has founds its to owners who have no intention of letting them go, especially for any future gt3 even if manual.
Agreed. The 997 RS wont be touched.
Old 03-02-2016, 12:38 AM
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Glad you linked this article. Looks like the GT3 is getting a manual! In the past Andreas said the GT3 may get a manual, but not for the RS version as it's purely for the track.

991.2 GT3 trumps the 991.1 911R. No point in buying the R other than collectibility. Hopefully it gets the 4.0L since it's the final send off before turbocharging the 992 generation.
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I've had a deposit on the 991.2 GT3 and GT3 RS for almost two years now, and I've secured top spots. With that said, no matter what the 997.2 GT3 RS models will be regarded as the best driver's cars Porsche ever built. They're untouchable.


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