How many 15-16 gt3's have engine replaced?
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Originally Posted by Lukas_at
Porsche doesnt CPO any GT3 with an engine replacement. You will receive one year longer warranty as compensation as all the 2014 GT3s. Every 2014 GT3 with CPO is a lie and most likely the dealer who tries to sell it doesnt know that Porsche doesnt CPO it. At least 3 2014 I looked into were sold as CPO and none of them really had it ...
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Here is what I know:
1. My GT3 is covered under warranty.
2. My GT3 is awesome.
3. Nobody with these engine problems have been screwed by Porsche.
4. This problem is very well documented.
Here is what I believe:
1. The GT3 is the flagship.
2. This problem most likely impacts all 991 GT3, RS and R models.
3. Porsche is not stupid.
Given what I believe, Porsche will do the right thing. The right thing could include:
1. Fixing this issue out of warranty.
2. Addressing this issue proactively.
3. Being compelled to fix this as bad press piles up.
In the event that Porsche doesn't address this issue prior to my warranty running out, I can just trade my GT3 in for a low mileage 991.1 GT3 CPO or buy a 991.2 GT3 and not worry about it for another 5 years. I can even sell the car to my dealer, they CPO it, and then I buy it back.
There is also the 3rd party fix, which we will learn about in a few weeks. This may be the way to go, or it may just compel Porsche to address the problem head on. Who knows.
Lots of options. Either way I am not worried about it. Under no scenario can I see myself having a dead GT3 lying around because the engine blew out of warranty. Not happening.
1. My GT3 is covered under warranty.
2. My GT3 is awesome.
3. Nobody with these engine problems have been screwed by Porsche.
4. This problem is very well documented.
Here is what I believe:
1. The GT3 is the flagship.
2. This problem most likely impacts all 991 GT3, RS and R models.
3. Porsche is not stupid.
Given what I believe, Porsche will do the right thing. The right thing could include:
1. Fixing this issue out of warranty.
2. Addressing this issue proactively.
3. Being compelled to fix this as bad press piles up.
In the event that Porsche doesn't address this issue prior to my warranty running out, I can just trade my GT3 in for a low mileage 991.1 GT3 CPO or buy a 991.2 GT3 and not worry about it for another 5 years. I can even sell the car to my dealer, they CPO it, and then I buy it back.
There is also the 3rd party fix, which we will learn about in a few weeks. This may be the way to go, or it may just compel Porsche to address the problem head on. Who knows.
Lots of options. Either way I am not worried about it. Under no scenario can I see myself having a dead GT3 lying around because the engine blew out of warranty. Not happening.
You can go back to 2007 and start with the 997.1 GT3/RS. Every iteration of the GT has had significant problems. My 997.1 GT3 had 4 RMS leaks in 4 months in 2500 miles. Porsche never fixed the problem on my car. Sure it was under warranty. But the car spent more time in the shop than in my garage. The issues with the current GT cars make the RMS leaks pale in comparison. I'm gun shy now on the GT cars.
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okay I was in contact with 3 different Porsche dealer for 2014 GT3s and all of them were CPO on the ad but then asking for the CPO paperwork I was told that Porsche doesn't certify them because the engine replacement and the one year longer warranty which comes with this.
Do you have 2 or 3 year longer warranty?
Do you have 2 or 3 year longer warranty?
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I don't disagree in what you are saying. But for me Porsche GT cars are no longer worth the hassle. If I can quote the funny Roseanne Roseannadanna "Theres' always something ... if it's not one thing it's another."
You can go back to 2007 and start with the 997.1 GT3/RS. Every iteration of the GT has had significant problems. My 997.1 GT3 had 4 RMS leaks in 4 months in 2500 miles. Porsche never fixed the problem on my car. Sure it was under warranty. But the car spent more time in the shop than in my garage. The issues with the current GT cars make the RMS leaks pale in comparison. I'm gun shy now on the GT cars.
You can go back to 2007 and start with the 997.1 GT3/RS. Every iteration of the GT has had significant problems. My 997.1 GT3 had 4 RMS leaks in 4 months in 2500 miles. Porsche never fixed the problem on my car. Sure it was under warranty. But the car spent more time in the shop than in my garage. The issues with the current GT cars make the RMS leaks pale in comparison. I'm gun shy now on the GT cars.
I know one thing. Porsche isn't going to screw us. Others aren't so sure, so those people should buy something else if it really bothers them. And I don't blame them for that.
You got to do what you got to do!
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I don't disagree in what you are saying. But for me Porsche GT cars are no longer worth the hassle. If I can quote the funny Roseanne Roseannadanna "Theres' always something ... if it's not one thing it's another." You can go back to 2007 and start with the 997.1 GT3/RS. Every iteration of the GT has had significant problems. My 997.1 GT3 had 4 RMS leaks in 4 months in 2500 miles. Porsche never fixed the problem on my car. Sure it was under warranty. But the car spent more time in the shop than in my garage. The issues with the current GT cars make the RMS leaks pale in comparison. I'm gun shy now on the GT cars.
Good luck with that. Mac, Ferrari, Chevy etc, they all are a hassle when they break, and they all break at this level.
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FWIW I have a 2014 CPO'd GT3... Bought about 1 year ago
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Originally Posted by Lukas_at
okay I was in contact with 3 different Porsche dealer for 2014 GT3s and all of them were CPO on the ad but then asking for the CPO paperwork I was told that Porsche doesn't certify them because the engine replacement and the one year longer warranty which comes with this.
Do you have 2 or 3 year longer warranty?
Do you have 2 or 3 year longer warranty?
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Just drive the car.
Worry about what will happen if it actually happens.
Life's too short.
Worry about what will happen if it actually happens.
Life's too short.
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I am not fully sure why the dealer told me that however, he gave me the $2500 off what the certifcation costs. I would assume anything what would fail during the CPO test would be a warranty case? Which I have now 3 more years anyway ...
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Porsche doesnt CPO any GT3 with an engine replacement. You will receive one year longer warranty as compensation as all the 2014 GT3s. Every 2014 GT3 with CPO is a lie and most likely the dealer who tries to sell it doesnt know that Porsche doesnt CPO it. At least 3 2014 I looked into were sold as CPO and none of them really had it ...
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Originally Posted by Lukas_at
Okay thats interesting. I was told from the dealer that Porsche doesnt CPO the 2014 GT3s with engine replacement because they get the one year longer warranty already.
I am not fully sure why the dealer told me that however, he gave me the $2500 off what the certifcation costs. I would assume anything what would fail during the CPO test would be a warranty case? Which I have now 3 more years anyway ...
I am not fully sure why the dealer told me that however, he gave me the $2500 off what the certifcation costs. I would assume anything what would fail during the CPO test would be a warranty case? Which I have now 3 more years anyway ...
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Even though I do believe people have 2014 with CPO, I was told the same thing but a regional customer relations rep. She said they couldn't add another warranty on a 14 cause it already had extra warranty in the motor. I wanted to argue with her and point out that someone was not telling the truth but it was going to help my situation at the time.
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Went to my Porsche garage today to check on the progress of my top end rebuild. Sad to see my car on the hoist with the engine and drive train removed. ![Frown](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Took a look at my engine in the process of being rebuilt. One interesting observation is that the camshaft has changed. The cam lobes now appear to have the same DLC coating as the rocker arms. The part numbers of the rocker arms have also changed indicating some sort of change to them too but superficially they look the same.
So there have obviously been some changes by PAG but do not know if this is a total solution to the problem or not.
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Took a look at my engine in the process of being rebuilt. One interesting observation is that the camshaft has changed. The cam lobes now appear to have the same DLC coating as the rocker arms. The part numbers of the rocker arms have also changed indicating some sort of change to them too but superficially they look the same.
So there have obviously been some changes by PAG but do not know if this is a total solution to the problem or not.
Last edited by Chris3963; 08-05-2016 at 04:22 PM.