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Old 04-02-2016, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by carz80am
I was told 3 times that they can't cpo a gt3 but maybe my rep didn't know better or just used that as an excuse not to cpo it?
I'm in the process of buying a '15 GT3 that is CPO'd from San Diego Porsche.
Old 04-02-2016, 11:51 PM
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^^^Mike - you are correct
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Originally Posted by 911RGR
I'm in the process of buying a '15 GT3 that is CPO'd from San Diego Porsche.
That must be because it's pre-owned. If it were new, you couldn't get a CPO warranty at the time of purchase. Also, if you had purchased the car new, you couldn't add a CPO warranty at a later time to extend the original factory warranty.
Old 04-03-2016, 12:42 AM
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Glad I'm taking mine on a road trip to Steamboat, CO in June. A good 12 hour drive should help flush out some gremlins!
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A good 12 hour drive should help flush out some gremlins!
My thoughts on the Spring Smokies event.
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Mike
nice summation on the warranty issue
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^^Thanks!
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Guys,

I received word from PAG. They are saying they will replace the parts rather than provide a G engine. I am surprised, enraged, disappointed and distressed all at the same time. Macca and others - what actions should I take? You've seen the pics - the rockers and the camshaft.

I am going to write to PAG and protest. This has potential implications to others with a 2014 or even 2015. In short, if the status of my engine isn't bad enough, how bad does it have to be?
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Originally Posted by ablee2323
Guys, I received word from PAG. They are saying they will replace the parts rather than provide a G engine. I am surprised, enraged, disappointed and distressed all at the same time. Macca and others - what actions should I take? You've seen the pics - the rockers and the camshaft. I am going to write to PAG and protest. This has potential implications to others with a 2014 or even 2015. In short, if the status of my engine isn't bad enough, how bad does it have to be?

I'm very surprised about this outcome. I would demand a bore scope examination on the basis of your concern that metal particles may have caused further damage t the engine that hasn't been identified by simply removing the cams and rockers. In another RLers case a few pages back this revealed scored bore and changed the PAG position to engine replacement. Perhaps you should contact that member by PM and discuss options? Just. Though but this is where I would go next....best of luck mate.
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Originally Posted by ablee2323
Guys,

I received word from PAG. They are saying they will replace the parts rather than provide a G engine. I am surprised, enraged, disappointed and distressed all at the same time. Macca and others - what actions should I take? You've seen the pics - the rockers and the camshaft.

I am going to write to PAG and protest. This has potential implications to others with a 2014 or even 2015. In short, if the status of my engine isn't bad enough, how bad does it have to be?
Same thing happened to me. That's why process took 52 days. They wanted to replace parts even though I wanted a new motor and dealer recommended one as well. Once they finally received all parts and were replacing them, they noticed excessive scarring and then pag and a field rep decided to replace motor. Car is running strong so far, just keep pushing and keep complaining to pcna...
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Back in the vanilla 996 non gt3 cars days -engines were just throwaways. Rather than rebuild if it's even possible they just replace. Yeah be nice to have a whole new engine to replace under warranty but if it's rebuildable that's really a good thing especially when the time warranty runs out- I like to know its rebuildable vs a whole new motor when warranty runs out. Mike
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Originally Posted by carz80am
If this is the same bulletin that has been out there, they tried doing this with mine but saw the scaring and replaced the motor. It took 52 days total but I got my car back and so far so good...compensation is minimal but at least something, never seen a manufacturer give any compensation besides a loaner
I believe it is yes, waiting to get a copy.

Originally Posted by carz80am
I was told 3 times that they can't cpo a gt3 but maybe my rep didn't know better or just used that as an excuse not to cpo it?
If the car is used, and low miles sold by Porsche they should CPO.

Originally Posted by ablee2323
Guys,

I received word from PAG. They are saying they will replace the parts rather than provide a G engine. I am surprised, enraged, disappointed and distressed all at the same time. Macca and others - what actions should I take? You've seen the pics - the rockers and the camshaft.

I am going to write to PAG and protest. This has potential implications to others with a 2014 or even 2015. In short, if the status of my engine isn't bad enough, how bad does it have to be?
Make them take compression and leak down in each cylinder to make sure that there is no damage to the cylinders rings from all the metal debris floating around in the engine.
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From what I understand, the damage to the valve levers and cams is due to a failure of the coating on the levers AND insufficient oil flow/pressure and high RPM. Is that true, and if so how will just replacing parts prevent the problem from reoccurring? Has the coating on the replacement levers been improved so much that oiling is no longer a factor? Does the parts fix address the oiling issue at all? So many questions; anyone know the answers?
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Boy, it would certainly be nice to know how many engines PAG has had to deal with so far? What does it take to justify a total recall, anyone?
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Originally Posted by ablee2323
Guys,

I received word from PAG. They are saying they will replace the parts rather than provide a G engine. I am surprised, enraged, disappointed and distressed all at the same time. Macca and others - what actions should I take? You've seen the pics - the rockers and the camshaft.

I am going to write to PAG and protest. This has potential implications to others with a 2014 or even 2015. In short, if the status of my engine isn't bad enough, how bad does it have to be?
I think you are doing the right thing. Don't just go quietly. But, it is Porsche. I believe at the end of the day, they will do the right thing. Is that replacing the entire engine? If they discover anything suspect during the teardown, I think they will. As others have said, ask for additional diagnostics. If something is really wrong, you will get a new engine. Everything will work out. Keep pushing.


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