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Old 09-01-2016, 02:55 PM
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Really interesting that Porsche would back away from its track warranty for GT cars, just as much of the competition has been broadening their warranties to include track use (GT350, Camaro Z28, Corvette, Viper, etc.).

Maybe it will return with low-revving turbocharged GT cars???
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Originally Posted by qbix
I am done with Porsche GT cars. Will put mine on sale before it's warranty expires and others figure out that this car is not for track days any longer. MY2015.

F%&* you porsche.
I wouldn't go that far, but I don't blame anyone for having these thoughts. To me, it is simple. Don't expect the car to be covered by warranty if something bad happens on the track (and they know about it), or they know of any modifications, and don't expect any goodwill after your warranty expires.

I am just hoping to learn more about the new top end changes, and get some sense that those parts address the problem. Then hope my engine needs a new top end before my warranty expires.
Old 09-01-2016, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by robmypro
or other events.
???? I guess that's pretty inclusive.........

One thing we're learning here is don't be honest about your CEL.
Old 09-01-2016, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by robmypro
This clause was removed on my 2015.


I don't want to take the conspiracy theory down the rabbit hole, but I just checked my owner's manual case, and the little booklet about 'Driving On The Race Circuit' isn't in there any more. I would have had zero reason to not keep it with the other car manuals...

Checking to see if I can order a replacement.
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Here's a snapshot of my 2015 Warranty Page.


Old 09-01-2016, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean in Texas


I don't want to take the conspiracy theory down the rabbit hole, but I just checked my owner's manual case, and the little booklet about 'Driving On The Race Circuit' isn't in there any more. I would have had zero reason to not keep it with the other car manuals...

Checking to see if I can order a replacement.
The booklet was included in my 2015.
Old 09-01-2016, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WernerE
Here's a snapshot of my 2015 Warranty Page.


Is that from a GT3 manual ?
If not, it shouldn't be part of this discussion as it's a different engine, different model
Old 09-01-2016, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WSH
Is that from a GT3 manual ?
If not, it shouldn't be part of this discussion as it's a different engine, different model
This was the warranty booklet that came with my GT3.
Old 09-01-2016, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WSH
Is that from a GT3 manual ?
If not, it shouldn't be part of this discussion as it's a different engine, different model
My 2015 GT3, correct (I have more than one 911).
Old 09-01-2016, 03:21 PM
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A few comments. The USA warranty language is unchanged from at least 2012. The note about "driving events" and "may not be covered" are in the warranty book for my 12 Cayman. The GT cars do not get a special warranty book. If you look at the book it is titled Warranty and Customer Information Model year xxxx and it is for all models. you can see a footnote that GT cars have a shorter corrosion warranty so it is clear the booklet is for all. So nothing really new. My opinion is PAG/ PCNA want this to be vague- it may or may not be covered. I've had warranty coverage on a tracked car although relatively minor (water pump, PDLS ) and other USA cars have had GT3 top end work. I know cars that went from the track to the dealer on a flat bed with numbers on the doors.

My 9/14 build MY 2015 GT3 was not delivered with the Race Circuit booklet. I requested and received one from PCNA. It is copyright 2014 with a 10/14 notation and does not have the warranty reference.

Of course sorry to hear about the denial of coverage in Europe. Not sure what impact this may have for US market cars.

Going to COTA Sunday and will try not to think about all this!
Old 09-01-2016, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by WernerE
The booklet was included in my 2015.
It was included with mine, as well. I have referenced it a couple of times just to make sure I wasn't forgetting about anything. Always put it back in the car with the rest of the car's documentation. The 'implication' was that it has disappeared under mysterious circumstances.

Originally Posted by zedcat
A few comments. The USA warranty language is unchanged from at least 2012. The note about "driving events" and "may not be covered" are in the warranty book for my 12 Cayman. The GT cars do not get a special warranty book. If you look at the book it is titled Warranty and Customer Information Model year xxxx and it is for all models. you can see a footnote that GT cars have a shorter corrosion warranty so it is clear the booklet is for all. So nothing really new. My opinion is PAG/ PCNA want this to be vague- it may or may not be covered. I've had warranty coverage on a tracked car although relatively minor (water pump, PDLS ) and other USA cars have had GT3 top end work. I know cars that went from the track to the dealer on a flat bed with numbers on the doors.

My 9/14 build MY 2015 GT3 was not delivered with the Race Circuit booklet. I requested and received one from PCNA. It is copyright 2014 with a 10/14 notation and does not have the warranty reference.

Of course sorry to hear about the denial of coverage in Europe. Not sure what impact this may have for US market cars.

Going to COTA Sunday and will try not to think about all this!
Zedcat, our cars were very close in build date, and I took delivery from North in November of 14. I had the booklet. I called up and ordered a replacement. Apparently only 6 left in NA!

Have a good time this weekend!
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I specifically remember early(2014) owners had clear warranty books which mentioned that track usage is covered as long as a more strict service interval is followed. What happened to that?
Old 09-01-2016, 03:43 PM
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Question, Do you think the 991 cars are smart enough to link GPS coordinates with CEL's? The GTR has a GPS based speed limiter that is automatically removed when on a track.

Originally Posted by robmypro
This was the warranty booklet that came with my GT3.
Old 09-01-2016, 03:51 PM
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I knew it was posted by Mike somewhere :


https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...-warranty.html
Old 09-01-2016, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by neanicu
I specifically remember early(2014) owners had clear warranty books which mentioned that track usage is covered as long as a more strict service interval is followed. What happened to that?
Plus almost every GT3 promotional video and photo showed the car driven on a race track.


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