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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 07:11 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by onelove
I must say our dyno is normally regarded as a heart breaker as well, but the difference was mind blowing with your header. Normally if someone told me they gained 50hp with a header I would have to raise the BS flag, but I saw this one with my own eyes and the gains are real. Solid system you guys have engineered for this one, I'm just mad I didn't order one for me 996 a long time ago because I have a feeling you're going to have a pretty sizable wait list going forward!
If you have a center exit 996 cup bumper I have headers done. Just need to finish muffler section. Makes 27whp@ 7000 rpm. Otherwise with the dual I just have to build them but have the parts.
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 08:48 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 09:20 PM
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Oh my!!! Just got to ask. Are they using the same dyno as last time? Has it been Recalibrated? And to anyone who might know, does higher humidity make a difference?
Matt I have to say I'm a bit anxious to hear your car in person. Might have to pull the trigger on these.
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by meaker
Oh my!!! Just got to ask. Are they using the same dyno as last time? Has it been Recalibrated? And to anyone who might know, does higher humidity make a difference?
Matt I have to say I'm a bit anxious to hear your car in person. Might have to pull the trigger on these.
Dyno is same calibration with the link that destroys power on a RWD car. The 370 was my SAE baseline done when I was testing valves. That was with valves disconnected and SW bypass. I'm actually making a few my wheel horsepower over completely stock.

My guess is slightly over 60 whp gain over OEM. That and I only did a few runs on the dyno after my camera got run over. I figured I shouldn't press my luck any further. The slight dip in the mid range would have smoothed out once the DME adapted to the dyno. I was satisfied, so I shut it down.
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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I updated the front pages with more stuff!
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 09:27 PM
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That's very nearly unbelievable if it wasn't from trusted names. Numbers you'd expect from a displacement increase and not an exhaust.
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 09:34 PM
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That is without the tune????
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by meaker
Oh my!!! Just got to ask. Are they using the same dyno as last time? Has it been Recalibrated? And to anyone who might know, does higher humidity make a difference?
Matt I have to say I'm a bit anxious to hear your car in person. Might have to pull the trigger on these.
Same dyno setup as before, with newer Porsche we run them linked so it's spinning the front drums through a huge belt to keep the Porsche Systems happy. It's a dynojet 424 LC2 with the Link, the top of the dynojet food chain and we had it calibrated just before Matts baselines to allow us to measure cars with more than 1500 horsepower (we've had one make 1675whp on it). It's been used by countless Grand-Am and IMSA teams as well as the sanctioning bodies themselves for Balance of Performance and baseline purposes, I'd say she's as fair as they come.

Even un-correct we were looking at over a 45WHP gain which is absolutely insane. SAE,STD correction I checked them all and everything showed over a 40HP game, I have no dog in this fight other than it being on our dyno.
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2536
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Oops. Sorry I lied about the power gains.
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2536
Dyno is same calibration with the link that destroys power on a RWD car. The 370 was my SAE baseline done when I was testing valves. That was with valves disconnected and SW bypass. I'm actually making a few my wheel horsepower over completely stock.

My guess is slightly over 60 whp gain over OEM. That and I only did a few runs on the dyno after my camera got run over. I figured I shouldn't press my luck any further. The slight dip in the mid range would have smoothed out once the DME adapted to the dyno. I was satisfied, so I shut it down.
Matt's going to be testing the TTFS Stage1 tune after this, I'm sending Frank the blank ECU tomorrow, so that when Matt can remove his ECU to send in it's ready to go! DMS and TTFS both agree there is 10-15whp more in there on Matt's car with the tune, based on our experience testing out here on mine.

Oh and who knew my car was such a pansy...
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 10:39 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie_GT3
Matt's going to be testing the TTFS Stage1 tune after this, I'm sending Frank the blank ECU tomorrow, so that when Matt can remove his ECU to send in it's ready to go! DMS and TTFS both agree there is 10-15whp more in there on Matt's car with the tune, based on our experience testing out here on mine.

Oh and who knew my car was such a pansy...
Hey Jamie I first wanna say awesome work! Are you stating Matt is going to run an ECU that was NOT the original one that came in his car? If yes, then how are you getting around the security..I know that writing the VIN in he new ECU can be done but manufacturers are getting smart and putting serial numbers in these ECU, stopping guys like from having a "tuned one" and a "stock on."

Jamie, I also wanna believe these dyno numbers! Believe me I do, but I gotta say that in all my years I have never seen these kinda gains. We need to get Matt a Vbox or get it to the drag strip and see some trap #s.
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 11:23 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2016 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamie_GT3
Matt's going to be testing the TTFS Stage1 tune after this, I'm sending Frank the blank ECU tomorrow, so that when Matt can remove his ECU to send in it's ready to go! DMS and TTFS both agree there is 10-15whp more in there on Matt's car with the tune, based on our experience testing out here on mine.

Oh and who knew my car was such a pansy...
Thanks Jaime we are looking forward to receiving Matt's ECU
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