Nizer

If the RS were truly all about numbers they would've gone turbo and 4wd a long time ago. The ultimate lap time spin is just another red herring disseminated by marketing.

What it's really about is maximizing total 911 unit sales and one thing you can lay money on is that the marketing and engineering guys are working feverishly on how to slice and dice the high-end 911 customer in the new paradigm.

Personally I think they'd be stupid to give up on retaining at least one naturally-aspirated, high-performance 911 in the line up. Unit sales are too small to be an issue on overall fleet metrics, there's a strong market, and others have proven you don't have to kill all NA offerings.

BK77

I was under the impression that the 4 wheel steering and the PDK worked hand and hand, due to sharing a lot of the same hydraulic components...I may be wrong...???


If that's the case there will not be a GT manual car. Remember the GT is all about track time bragging rights, they will do what produces fastest lap times....ie.. PDK, 4 wheel steering and probably turbo's at this point.

bronson7

Would a GT3 with a 4.0 MT be quicker than the .1 GT3 PDK?

Jimmy-D

No - because we still do not know how quicker the RS really is. I bet to 60 and 100 will be neck to neck but all that aero will hurt the RS that the Gt3 would not have.

I guess it will come down to how good you are at switching gears manually

Alan C.

No, but Nick would be a happy camper.

neanicu

Would it matter which one is faster if I tell you you will have more mental orgasms reaching the same speed in a manual rather than in a PDK?

neanicu

LOL!

bronson7

No offense, but you miss my point. What I'm saying is, why would Porsche build the next generation .2 GT3 with a 4.0 MT and possibly be slower than the .1 GT3? Going backwards as far as I'm concerned, don't you think? By the way, I agree with the "more mental orgasms.

neanicu

I see...well PDK is here to stay. Of course it's all speculation at this point,but if they will offer the next GT3 in a manual,it will definitely be as an option,it won't be a " manual only " GT3 for sure.
Whether it will be slower than the current GT3 remains to be seen. I highly doubt it knowing Porsche. I think they are perfectly capable of building a manual GT3 that is faster than the current one.

BK77

Has anyone else read that in order for the rear wheel steering to work the car must have PDK? So if this is true, the next GT cars will most likely have rear wheel steering so they have to have PDK.

bronson7

Interesting. Where did you read this?

neanicu

RWS doesn't have anything to do with PDK. RWS has electric motors that are altering an alignment component called toe.
The pump for the E-diff is part of the PDK,but that can be adapted to work with a manual transmission.

BK77

I'm away from my computer so I'll do a little research when I get to a computer and try to find the source...

GrantG

Pretty sure you're thinking of the e-diff using hydraulic pressure shared with PDK. Neither RWS nor e-diff needs PDK though. RWS doesn't need hydraulic pressure and e-diff could easily be fed by an extra hydraulic pump run by a small electric motor.

There are examples in automotive history (and present) of both RWS and E-diff being run with manual gearboxes (current Vettes use manual and e-diff for instance).

BK77

Thanks for the clarification, I thought I read or watched a video that said they work hand and hand.

I'm getting old and forgetting **** all the time, so makes sense I twisted this up Sorry about the confusion on my part!

I still don't think P will put a manual in a GT car, IMO