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Figures are quite disappointing given the grandiose claims that Ford execs made when the car was initially launched:
0-10 0.4
0-60 3.2
0-100 6.6
Qtr 11.1 @ 130.0
Appears to have a traction problem despite 325 section MPSC2 rears.
They estimate a curb weight of 3,250 lbs.
I had thought that the testing might have been compromised since Utah Motorsports Park is at altitude, but apparently R&T applies the same correction factors that C&D does, so that should not be the culprit.
You guys are so hard on Ford.
They have a new CEO and he knows metal cabinets well and football. I'm sure he'll support the engineers.
Ok, I will logout now...
You guys are so hard on Ford.
They have a new CEO and he knows metal cabinets well and football. I'm sure he'll support the engineers.
Ok, I will logout now...
He looked tired during an interview that's the nicest thing I could think of.
Look I'm not a hater (even though I feel Ford took a major dump on me) but given the chance to buy one at GT2RS numbers I would weigh it against the GT2RS. Not for 600k 2 years from now. I'm over it.
I actually believe the Gen II will be as highly sought after 5 to 10 years from now for many reasons one being it's the last American analogue V8 Supercars. Many other reasons but that's for starters
i am happy however for those that got one that deserved it.
Look I'm not a hater (even though I feel Ford took a major dump on me) but given the chance to buy one at GT2RS numbers I would weigh it against the GT2RS. Not for 600k 2 years from now. I'm over it.
I actually believe the Gen II will be as highly sought after 5 to 10 years from now for many reasons one being it's the last American analogue V8 Supercars. Many other reasons but that's for starters
i am happy however for those that got one that deserved it.
Ford is an excellent company that IMO knee jerked the GT.
R&T article quotes an estimated curb weight of 3,250. I'll wait for actual numbers before condemning it. Bear in mind GT3 RS quotes weight of 3,130 but actual weight with 1/2 tank of fuel is 3,360. That means GT2 RS will likely weigh around 3,450.
Zero to whatever times mean far less than what kind of times it puts down on track and how it drives. Also, important to keep in mind that GT3/2, 488, 720, etc all started on paper as street cars and were converted to race cars. This is a race car that was converted to street - I suspect it'll do just fine.
Original Ford GT was a sleeper and maintains it's desirability and drive-ability today. Time will tell how this one holds up. The styling is a little extreme for my tastes and the price is more than I'm interested in paying, but everything coming out today seems to be taking advantage of buyers when it comes to pricing. Doesn't take away from it being an impressive product.
R&T article quotes an estimated curb weight of 3,250. I'll wait for actual numbers before condemning it. Bear in mind GT3 RS quotes weight of 3,130 but actual weight with 1/2 tank of fuel is 3,360. That means GT2 RS will likely weigh around 3,450.
Zero to whatever times mean far less than what kind of times it puts down on track and how it drives. Also, important to keep in mind that GT3/2, 488, 720, etc all started on paper as street cars and were converted to race cars. This is a race car that was converted to street - I suspect it'll do just fine.
Original Ford GT was a sleeper and maintains it's desirability and drive-ability today. Time will tell how this one holds up. The styling is a little extreme for my tastes and the price is more than I'm interested in paying, but everything coming out today seems to be taking advantage of buyers when it comes to pricing. Doesn't take away from it being an impressive product.
The thing I cannot figure out is the lackluster straight line performance, especially at low speeds. Car has 325 rear MPSC2 - that's 918 and RS rear footprint.
The testing was conducted at Miller/ Utah Motorsports Campus - i.e. at altitude - but Tony Quiroga does the R&T figures the same way he does C&D figures; i.e. wiith appropriate correction factors, per a friend who writes for R&T.
I have been wanting to revisit this discussion - did not realize I was the last to post. Ford goes through this selection process I thought with an intention to make sure the cars are seen on the road yet, the only place I have ever seen a second gen Ford GT is in a show room that sells Mclarens and Aston Martins. I don't go to cars and coffee events but do track days and have seen all manner of exotics. Admittedly, some of the cars show up just to park and pose while the others 'track'. There is sometimes a parade type lap for the ultra exotics. Bug Chiron, Lamb SVJ, modern classic cars, Miura, etc. Admittedly, there are invitationals where there probably are FGT's getting out.
I guess all I am saying is this selection process did nothing to get the cars out in the public eye more. Quite the opposite it seems. San Francisco area and South Florida (where I troll about annually) have a lot of supercars but I have never seen the Ford GT on the streets at either location. I sure would enjoy seeing one on a track near me being driven fast. Rant over. I guess Ford was just interested in 'social media' and not real life experiences.
I’ve owned two 2005 FGT’s. I’m the original owner of the white/blue car that now has 60k miles. 17 years on…I’ve subjected it to a sympathetic restoration, refurbing seals, shocks, suspension bits, and new paint. It’s a keeper for sure, with all the memories of wonderful drives. A wonderful analog super car.
I went through the whole process, applying for the new FGT. Got selected In the first 500 cohort of buyers. I ended up spec’ing a red 2018 Heritage car. I feel that I did the FoMoCo right, showing the car, driving it over 7k miles, tracking it, and even took it to Pebble Beach Car Week, putting it in three shows there. It is definitely a techno marvel, a race car for the road. After this car went off warranty, I traded it for two very desirable cars…an LFA and a 964 3.6 Turbo. Why?…all things considered, I’d rather keep the older version of the FGT. It’s bomb proof, like most Porsches. The new FGT is digital, and has several hydraulic systems. Owners have had leaks, etc. Off warranty, the car has eye watering repair costs, much like a CGT. I also feel that the new car, at a price point 4X the older car, attracted a different type of owner. More speculative, less interested in driving it.
Having said that, I still have a FGT Mk II. One of 45. Car is track only, bare bones. Actually more reliable and easier to maintain with a fixed wing, fixed suspension etc. A blast on track. See video below of a track day at COTA.
07-03-2017, 09:42 PM
