991RS Review thread
#526
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[QUOTE=mrsullivan;12624106]surprised to hear that the sound is less/muffled than the GT3 or that the transmission shifts differently because I would think in the case of both its basically the same running gearQUOTE]
To my knowledge, you are correct, though ratios are different due to wheel sizes.
It's part of the reason I mentioned it. That could be a function of the two specific cars as some variability always exists. However, I the loud clank on upshifts, which again I found surprising though very pleasant, something like a gated shifter, was definitely not present on the 3.
The wife also mentioned how different it sounded.
I'll let other RS owners chime in.
To my knowledge, you are correct, though ratios are different due to wheel sizes.
It's part of the reason I mentioned it. That could be a function of the two specific cars as some variability always exists. However, I the loud clank on upshifts, which again I found surprising though very pleasant, something like a gated shifter, was definitely not present on the 3.
The wife also mentioned how different it sounded.
I'll let other RS owners chime in.
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First and foremost, I've always wanted to experience the top of the 911 food chain on track, a car that would only be limited by my abilities and hence, allow me to develop fully.
Second, the marginal utility of $50k as an investment for me is minimal at this point in my life. The grin and utter satisfaction that I've achieved my first objective is far more important. It's like wondering what it would be to live with a supermodel... You can't tell until you try it and until then, you keep wondering.
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So if you want this mostly as a road car or as a DD, then I'd say your marginal utility for money better be way low because the 3 is nicer looking (IMO), gets you 99% of the benefits and saves you 25% ignoring any mark-ups.
On the other hand, if you are a collector, that $50k might be - pure guess here - a worthwhile investment given lower production numbers. Again, I am not in this game. If I get out of this car some day and make-out as well as I did selling my 3 after 13 months and 15k miles, I will consider myself a lucky SOB but until then, it's not part of the equation.
Good luck!
P.S. Too bad we didn't connect before. I had a '14 w/ replacement engine that drove like a dream. I highly recommend it!
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Thanks for the review alaint I was wondering how things would feel jumping from a heavily tracked 991 GT3 to the RS. I too had the sofa seats as they were the only option for the early 14s. I have a feeling the exhaust and motor will break in with time and miles and feel and sound different. That's what happened with my 3. Do you feel like the wider track makes it feel harder to turn in or does the 4 wheel steering counteract that? How about the roof line, more room than your 3? Thanks for the info
#529
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Well- got to see my first GT3 RS
(Up close) yesterday at the Dealership. Hear are my objective opinions. First it was white. Loved the car in white and those that chose that color will have a grin ear to ear. The car has a lot of contrasting black parts so it just looks great in white. There was a LO Turbo S in the show room and I just can not stomach that color- sorry if I offended any one. The car does not look massive like some have indicated. It does have a great stance/presence. It was next to a GT Silver GT3 and you can see how it looks like it's bigger brother the same way the GT3 looks when next to a GT4. The GT3 is certainly the prettier of the GT series but the RS just screams- " I am King".
(Up close) yesterday at the Dealership. Hear are my objective opinions. First it was white. Loved the car in white and those that chose that color will have a grin ear to ear. The car has a lot of contrasting black parts so it just looks great in white. There was a LO Turbo S in the show room and I just can not stomach that color- sorry if I offended any one. The car does not look massive like some have indicated. It does have a great stance/presence. It was next to a GT Silver GT3 and you can see how it looks like it's bigger brother the same way the GT3 looks when next to a GT4. The GT3 is certainly the prettier of the GT series but the RS just screams- " I am King".
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that was my impression as well
the width of the front, the lack of any wheel gap at all, I mean, the fenders look rolled almost, the rake/stance... the car just looks mean. As I have said, I can do without all the trim bits which I feel look a little ugly/over top. But obviously they are functional. It looks more race car than the GT3.
the width of the front, the lack of any wheel gap at all, I mean, the fenders look rolled almost, the rake/stance... the car just looks mean. As I have said, I can do without all the trim bits which I feel look a little ugly/over top. But obviously they are functional. It looks more race car than the GT3.
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Thanks for the review alaint I was wondering how things would feel jumping from a heavily tracked 991 GT3 to the RS. I too had the sofa seats as they were the only option for the early 14s. I have a feeling the exhaust and motor will break in with time and miles and feel and sound different. That's what happened with my 3. Do you feel like the wider track makes it feel harder to turn in or does the 4 wheel steering counteract that? How about the roof line, more room than your 3? Thanks for the info
The wider track, if anything, appears to make the car more precise and more planted. Of course, it's hard to tell what's doing what when you also have wider rubber and a smaller steering. Nevertheless, it's easier, not harder to steer vs. the 3.
This car feels extremely well balanced, as if it were a more mature design.
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Put 150 miles last night so I'd like to add a couple of thoughts to my early experience with the RS.
First, she's an angry bitch... I love it. The growl is menacing, much more so than the 3. If you get into it even lightly, once it hits 3600 rpm, all I can think of is that she's an angry bitch. I can't wait to pop past 4200...
Second, you can definitely feel the difference in the torque curve combined with the weight. Case in point, I was at a stop light and just admiring the interior. When I realized the light had turned green, I stepped on the throttle with alacrity though I didn't get into it, keeping it perhaps at 10%. And the wheels just spun. Of course, the PSC2s only had a 100 miles of light use at that point but still... No way the 3 would have behaved like this. Naughty girl.
To all who've asked, this was a sound $50k investment, for me. It's imprinting permanent wrinkles on my face and that's a good thing!
Happy driving.
First, she's an angry bitch... I love it. The growl is menacing, much more so than the 3. If you get into it even lightly, once it hits 3600 rpm, all I can think of is that she's an angry bitch. I can't wait to pop past 4200...
Second, you can definitely feel the difference in the torque curve combined with the weight. Case in point, I was at a stop light and just admiring the interior. When I realized the light had turned green, I stepped on the throttle with alacrity though I didn't get into it, keeping it perhaps at 10%. And the wheels just spun. Of course, the PSC2s only had a 100 miles of light use at that point but still... No way the 3 would have behaved like this. Naughty girl.
To all who've asked, this was a sound $50k investment, for me. It's imprinting permanent wrinkles on my face and that's a good thing!
Happy driving.
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Put 150 miles last night so I'd like to add a couple of thoughts to my early experience with the RS.
First, she's an angry bitch... I love it. The growl is menacing, much more so than the 3. If you get into it even lightly, once it hits 3600 rpm, all I can think of is that she's an angry bitch. I can't wait to pop past 4200...
Second, you can definitely feel the difference in the torque curve combined with the weight. Case in point, I was at a stop light and just admiring the interior. When I realized the light had turned green, I stepped on the throttle with alacrity though I didn't get into it, keeping it perhaps at 10%. And the wheels just spun. Of course, the PSC2s only had a 100 miles of light use at that point but still... No way the 3 would have behaved like this. Naughty girl.
To all who've asked, this was a sound $50k investment, for me. It's imprinting permanent wrinkles on my face and that's a good thing!
Happy driving.
First, she's an angry bitch... I love it. The growl is menacing, much more so than the 3. If you get into it even lightly, once it hits 3600 rpm, all I can think of is that she's an angry bitch. I can't wait to pop past 4200...
Second, you can definitely feel the difference in the torque curve combined with the weight. Case in point, I was at a stop light and just admiring the interior. When I realized the light had turned green, I stepped on the throttle with alacrity though I didn't get into it, keeping it perhaps at 10%. And the wheels just spun. Of course, the PSC2s only had a 100 miles of light use at that point but still... No way the 3 would have behaved like this. Naughty girl.
To all who've asked, this was a sound $50k investment, for me. It's imprinting permanent wrinkles on my face and that's a good thing!
Happy driving.
all the senses on car below 4000rpm like a virgin girl early
discovering
every little gearwheel so ready to attack the asphalt even under 3000rpm like a virgin
now she' s so smooth and fluid all the best come over 8000rpm
the wild bitch s forgotten her virgin' memories
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Sorry if kinda off topic, whats the best way to break in the 991RS? 50% throttle and only up to 4,000rpm first 200miles? or km? Then increase gradually the rpm as the mileage reach to 1,000miles or km?
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Last thing i read was: 4000rpm for first 500kms, then increase by 500rpms every 100km..
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I would also make sure to get the oil up to operating temperature before switching it off. It'll protect the engine better long term than any rpm guidelines.
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The book says, for the U.S., to keep RPMs below 4200 for first 2000 miles and to check and top off oil every time you fill.
It also says no track use during that period along w/ no abrupt braking - unless you have to I suppose - and no hard acceleration...
It's all in the book. I'm 'trying' to follow religiously
It also says no track use during that period along w/ no abrupt braking - unless you have to I suppose - and no hard acceleration...
It's all in the book. I'm 'trying' to follow religiously
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The book says, for the U.S., to keep RPMs below 4200 for first 2000 miles and to check and top off oil every time you fill.
It also says no track use during that period along w/ no abrupt braking - unless you have to I suppose - and no hard acceleration...
It's all in the book. I'm 'trying' to follow religiously
It also says no track use during that period along w/ no abrupt braking - unless you have to I suppose - and no hard acceleration...
It's all in the book. I'm 'trying' to follow religiously
#540
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Just take it easy for the first 1000 miles. Stay unDer 5000 rpm but if oil heated up you can gradually stretch her legs a little(5000-7000) but only after the first 500 miles
After 1000 miles just drive her like you stole her
After 1000 miles just drive her like you stole her