Anyone dislike the GT3 ?
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There are many comments out there regarding the lack of a MT in the new GT3..... do you miss it? My question is [not sure too many owners will admit this tho], does anyone actually dislike the PDK S enough to say they will eventually get rid of it and buy another version of a stick GT3? Many out there seem to have previously experienced a stick GT3 and comparing would be fairly easy. As for me, never driven a GT3, I can't do a fair comparison. Would love to hear some honest feedback.
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Honestly, I'm still astonished by the car. I only have 825 miles on it. It's a must to put an exhaust. I recommend the Sharkwerks. It's not overwhelming or obnoxious but when you get the RPMS over 5k, holy lord it's harmonious.
To the basis of your question...I think this car is simply sublime. I owned a 991C2S prior (first Porsche) and I was amazed. Prior to that, I had many ///M cars. Here is my basis opinion. To own a GT3 and never track it at all is just stupid and pointless. Get a C2S or Turbo. This car is designed for track and it will show you that when it is at its home. To not ever experience that is a sad waste. You will never experience the capabilities on public roads. However, all I can say is if the GT3 will be your only car I can see how the luster could wear off of always driving such a raw sports car. (for me at least) I have a M4 also so it's nice to get into a car that is a little quieter and have some more luxury amenities.
To the basis of your question...I think this car is simply sublime. I owned a 991C2S prior (first Porsche) and I was amazed. Prior to that, I had many ///M cars. Here is my basis opinion. To own a GT3 and never track it at all is just stupid and pointless. Get a C2S or Turbo. This car is designed for track and it will show you that when it is at its home. To not ever experience that is a sad waste. You will never experience the capabilities on public roads. However, all I can say is if the GT3 will be your only car I can see how the luster could wear off of always driving such a raw sports car. (for me at least) I have a M4 also so it's nice to get into a car that is a little quieter and have some more luxury amenities.
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Honestly, I'm still astonished by the car. I only have 825 miles on it. It's a must to put an exhaust. I recommend the Sharkwerks. It's not overwhelming or obnoxious but when you get the RPMS over 5k, holy lord it's harmonious.
To the basis of your question...I think this car is simply sublime. I owned a 991C2S prior (first Porsche) and I was amazed. Prior to that, I had many ///M cars. Here is my basis opinion. To own a GT3 and never track it at all is just stupid and pointless. Get a C2S or Turbo. This car is designed for track and it will show you that when it is at its home. To not ever experience that is a sad waste. You will never experience the capabilities on public roads. However, all I can say is if the GT3 will be your only car I can see how the luster could wear off of always driving such a raw sports car. (for me at least) I have a M4 also so it's nice to get into a car that is a little quieter and have some more luxury amenities.
To the basis of your question...I think this car is simply sublime. I owned a 991C2S prior (first Porsche) and I was amazed. Prior to that, I had many ///M cars. Here is my basis opinion. To own a GT3 and never track it at all is just stupid and pointless. Get a C2S or Turbo. This car is designed for track and it will show you that when it is at its home. To not ever experience that is a sad waste. You will never experience the capabilities on public roads. However, all I can say is if the GT3 will be your only car I can see how the luster could wear off of always driving such a raw sports car. (for me at least) I have a M4 also so it's nice to get into a car that is a little quieter and have some more luxury amenities.
If I understand correctly, this is your 2nd Porsche. Having also owned M cars, Audi RS cars, Mercedes AMG cars, etc., my POV is that Porsche is a very different animal. I am sure that you would now agree. You probably learned this when you moved from M to Porsche. The 991 C2S is a great car. But the GT3 is special/different in small ways.
This will be my 6th 911, and with Porsche its the "small" nuanced differences that make for the experience and the love of the brand. I encourage you to go spend the day in a early air cooled Porsche, or go drive previous generation GT3s. They are definitely very at home on the track, but I reject the notion that they cannot be enjoyed carving canyons and hill roads on the weekends with a DIFFERENT/BETTER experience than a C2S. You absolutely can enjoy this type of car off the track if you have the right types of roads and I would hardly say its a waste or stupid to do so. For some (many, actually) of us, the car wont see much track duty, but we absolutely can tell and appreciate the subtle differences in driving this car vs. a more mainstream Porsche like a C2S, C4S, turbo, etc.
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There are many comments out there regarding the lack of a MT in the new GT3..... do you miss it? My question is [not sure too many owners will admit this tho], does anyone actually dislike the PDK S enough to say they will eventually get rid of it and buy another version of a stick GT3? Many out there seem to have previously experienced a stick GT3 and comparing would be fairly easy. As for me, never driven a GT3, I can't do a fair comparison. Would love to hear some honest feedback.
My first GT3, (a 996), on the 3'rd day of ownership, I spun it out in Malibu CYN., and ALMOST went right off the cliff. Seriously. Did a 180. I've had the 991 on the same roads, going faster, and never got anywhere NEAR losing traction....
It's just the very, very best car I've ever driven...
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Is that deal still on the table? I'm checking flight schedules.
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I wouldn't call it stupid and pointless. However, I would say that you are missing out on part of the experience of a GT3 and what it has to offer if you never drive it on track at a decent, non novice pace.
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I've had the 991 on the same roads, going faster, and never got anywhere NEAR losing traction....
It's just the very, very best car I've ever driven...
It's just the very, very best car I've ever driven...
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I almost traded my 94 3.6 turbo for one of those once. The slope is an icon.
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Respectfully, I disagree.
If I understand correctly, this is your 2nd Porsche. Having also owned M cars, Audi RS cars, Mercedes AMG cars, etc., my POV is that Porsche is a very different animal. I am sure that you would now agree. You probably learned this when you moved from M to Porsche. The 991 C2S is a great car. But the GT3 is special/different in small ways. I agree with this
This will be my 6th 911, and with Porsche its the "small" nuanced differences that make for the experience and the love of the brand. I encourage you to go spend the day in a early air cooled Porsche, or go drive previous generation GT3s. They are definitely very at home on the track, but I reject the notion that they cannot be enjoyed carving canyons and hill roads on the weekends with a DIFFERENT/BETTER experience than a C2S. You absolutely can enjoy this type of car off the track if you have the right types of roads and I would hardly say its a waste or stupid to do so. For some (many, actually) of us, the car wont see much track duty, but we absolutely can tell and appreciate the subtle differences in driving this car vs. a more mainstream Porsche like a C2S, C4S, turbo, etc.
If I understand correctly, this is your 2nd Porsche. Having also owned M cars, Audi RS cars, Mercedes AMG cars, etc., my POV is that Porsche is a very different animal. I am sure that you would now agree. You probably learned this when you moved from M to Porsche. The 991 C2S is a great car. But the GT3 is special/different in small ways. I agree with this
This will be my 6th 911, and with Porsche its the "small" nuanced differences that make for the experience and the love of the brand. I encourage you to go spend the day in a early air cooled Porsche, or go drive previous generation GT3s. They are definitely very at home on the track, but I reject the notion that they cannot be enjoyed carving canyons and hill roads on the weekends with a DIFFERENT/BETTER experience than a C2S. You absolutely can enjoy this type of car off the track if you have the right types of roads and I would hardly say its a waste or stupid to do so. For some (many, actually) of us, the car wont see much track duty, but we absolutely can tell and appreciate the subtle differences in driving this car vs. a more mainstream Porsche like a C2S, C4S, turbo, etc.
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that's a different statement. one that I agree with...you can never exploit the full potential of any Porsche (especially GT3) on public roads... but you CAN experience noticeable difference vs the mainstream 911s, even on public roads (especially rural). See Andreas P. video ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I have driven my Porsches on the track before, and may do that with this one. But for some, there isn't interest in having it be a dedicated or significantly dedicated track car. Physical ailments, time, risk tolerance, whatever. My only point, is that I don't agree its stupid and pointless to drive this car on the street vs. track. Some of us would say its stupid and pointless to buy a C2/C4S or GTS that approximates the cost of a GT3 for a lot less special experience
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I have driven my Porsches on the track before, and may do that with this one. But for some, there isn't interest in having it be a dedicated or significantly dedicated track car. Physical ailments, time, risk tolerance, whatever. My only point, is that I don't agree its stupid and pointless to drive this car on the street vs. track. Some of us would say its stupid and pointless to buy a C2/C4S or GTS that approximates the cost of a GT3 for a lot less special experience
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