Autoweek/Andy Pilgrim 991 GT3 vs Z/28 at Barber Motorsport Park
#331
At the end of the day, everyone will justify their preference in some way. Bang for the buck guys will always chastise more expensive cars with less or barely more performance because of what they paid and vice versa because of lack of refinement and high quality materials. Those two arguments will never go away when it comes to GM vs Porsche.
For me it's a total package and if the car moves me. I don't expect a Camaro to be something it's not. It's still a Camaro at the end of the day. Just a very fast Camaro. It's the GT3 RS 4.0 of Camaro's. I like pony cars because they are different. And having different cars is a good thing. As for preference though, barebones interior goes more in line with a sports car than Alcantera everything IMO. That's good for taking a wife on a date, but I'll pass otherwise, so non consequential to me. I think the interior on Porsche's are getting a little to froo froo and fancy.
For me it's a total package and if the car moves me. I don't expect a Camaro to be something it's not. It's still a Camaro at the end of the day. Just a very fast Camaro. It's the GT3 RS 4.0 of Camaro's. I like pony cars because they are different. And having different cars is a good thing. As for preference though, barebones interior goes more in line with a sports car than Alcantera everything IMO. That's good for taking a wife on a date, but I'll pass otherwise, so non consequential to me. I think the interior on Porsche's are getting a little to froo froo and fancy.
#333
At the end of the day, everyone will justify their preference in some way. Bang for the buck guys will always chastise more expensive cars with less or barely more performance because of what they paid and vice versa because of lack of refinement and high quality materials. Those two arguments will never go away when it comes to GM vs Porsche.
For me it's a total package and if the car moves me. I don't expect a Camaro to be something it's not. It's still a Camaro at the end of the day. Just a very fast Camaro. It's the GT3 RS 4.0 of Camaro's. I like pony cars because they are different. And having different cars is a good thing. As for preference though, barebones interior goes more in line with a sports car than Alcantera everything IMO. That's good for taking a wife on a date, but I'll pass otherwise, so non consequential to me. I think the interior on Porsche's are getting a little to froo froo and fancy.
I do suppose that stereo & hvac controls are easier to access, but that's hardly in the same spirit of things.
#334
#335
At the end of the day, everyone will justify their preference in some way. Bang for the buck guys will always chastise more expensive cars with less or barely more performance because of what they paid and vice versa because of lack of refinement and high quality materials. Those two arguments will never go away when it comes to GM vs Porsche.
For me it's a total package and if the car moves me. I don't expect a Camaro to be something it's not. It's still a Camaro at the end of the day. Just a very fast Camaro. It's the GT3 RS 4.0 of Camaro's. I like pony cars because they are different. And having different cars is a good thing. As for preference though, barebones interior goes more in line with a sports car than Alcantera everything IMO. That's good for taking a wife on a date, but I'll pass otherwise, so non consequential to me. I think the interior on Porsche's are getting a little to froo froo and fancy.
As for interior, I happen to love a nice interior. Especially the look and smell of full leather in a Ferrari. So the plasticky GM interior is a demerit, but, as you say, I'm not expecting the Camaro to be something it is not.
#338
The fact that the Camaro exists is a good thing.
We're living in a golden age of automobiles right now. The Camaro is rooted in what we love. Elecrtronics are here to stay, but aren't we all at our mental limits? Does anyone want a 4-cyl turbo with small electric motors at two wheels?
It's 2014... and Chevy is putting out a V8 pushing over 500 HP... thru a 6MT! It's okay to say, "Hey, while the end run was a PR move on super sticky tires, I love my Porsche, first and foremost, and would love to run the snot out of a 500 HP V8 that has real track creds!
I live in both worlds... and the mullet world won't fully 'get' the Z/28 as much as they 'get' the ZL1.
Nevertheless, I'd like one and it's gotta goad the SVT folks at Ford to push harder... and the Corvette team is gonna push harder... and that's all good, even for the P car crowd.
Nothing like real competition to keep the champion (your Porshche line up) on its toes.
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We're living in a golden age of automobiles right now. The Camaro is rooted in what we love. Elecrtronics are here to stay, but aren't we all at our mental limits? Does anyone want a 4-cyl turbo with small electric motors at two wheels?
It's 2014... and Chevy is putting out a V8 pushing over 500 HP... thru a 6MT! It's okay to say, "Hey, while the end run was a PR move on super sticky tires, I love my Porsche, first and foremost, and would love to run the snot out of a 500 HP V8 that has real track creds!
I live in both worlds... and the mullet world won't fully 'get' the Z/28 as much as they 'get' the ZL1.
Nevertheless, I'd like one and it's gotta goad the SVT folks at Ford to push harder... and the Corvette team is gonna push harder... and that's all good, even for the P car crowd.
Nothing like real competition to keep the champion (your Porshche line up) on its toes.
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#343
#344
Jonny Lieberman is one of the most self absorbed automotive "journalist" I know of. He actually thinks he can make a difference. The Z28 just might be an excellent car, but Lieberman's endorsement means nothing to me.
#345
I am just as impressed as the next enthusiast that Chevrolet made the effort. Really, I am - I sincerely hope it leads to more focused vehicles in an automotive landscape quickly becoming homogeneous. And I generally prefer Camaros to Corvettes, be it a 1969 or a 2014.
But I cannot understand why anybody would spend $75k on this as a track car? The C6 Z06 is seven hundred pounds lighter. Certainly one could make a far faster and just as reliable Z06 for less money?
If it was $50k or, say, 3,500lbs, I might be able to understand.
But I cannot understand why anybody would spend $75k on this as a track car? The C6 Z06 is seven hundred pounds lighter. Certainly one could make a far faster and just as reliable Z06 for less money?
If it was $50k or, say, 3,500lbs, I might be able to understand.