This explains everything including why its taking so long on compensation
#1
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This explains everything including why its taking so long on compensation
Engine problem is "homemade" - not a supplier's issue according to german mag Wirtschaftswoche:
http://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/auto/...n/9649612.html
Fabrication tolerances (as set by Porsche) not tight enough....
I tried to paste with my Google translator but it refusing to paste here.
There apparently are regulations regarding replacing engines and compensation when that happens. If someone can get the article to translate that would be great.
http://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/auto/...n/9649612.html
Fabrication tolerances (as set by Porsche) not tight enough....
I tried to paste with my Google translator but it refusing to paste here.
There apparently are regulations regarding replacing engines and compensation when that happens. If someone can get the article to translate that would be great.
#2
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Not as a supplier , but the Porsche production have worked with large tolerances and therefore caused the engine damage , learned the business week from Porsche circles. " The supplier is not at fault ," said a Porsche executives of the journal. The selected tolerances were set in a way that could solve under high load the rod bolts from Titan with the 475 -hp high-performance engine of the GT3 and the crankcase damaged . In two cases it was thereby come to fires.
Porsche is now not only all already delivered cars fitted with new engines , but also ensure that the owners through the exchange no disadvantages . The sports car manufacturer is negotiating with regulatory authorities on a regime that prevents the engine swap leads to an impairment. For example, the vehicle papers may be re-issued . In addition, damages in preparation, although they would be negotiated individually with the vehicle owners . In mid-February , the production of the 911 GT3 was stopped and has started a recall . Since then, the expensive cars are silent.
Porsche is now not only all already delivered cars fitted with new engines , but also ensure that the owners through the exchange no disadvantages . The sports car manufacturer is negotiating with regulatory authorities on a regime that prevents the engine swap leads to an impairment. For example, the vehicle papers may be re-issued . In addition, damages in preparation, although they would be negotiated individually with the vehicle owners . In mid-February , the production of the 911 GT3 was stopped and has started a recall . Since then, the expensive cars are silent.
#4
Engine problem is "homemade" - not a supplier's issue according to german mag Wirtschaftswoche: http://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/auto/...n/9649612.html Fabrication tolerances (as set by Porsche) not tight enough.... I tried to paste with my Google translator but it refusing to paste here. There apparently are regulations regarding replacing engines and compensation when that happens. If someone can get the article to translate that would be great.
Also, I would assume that consumer protection as well as litigation culture vary from market to market, region to region...
I would imagine that in house counsel have likely been working as hard or harder than the engineers these last several weeks--in order to determine equitable packages for the various scenarios (the "stage" of owner, the market they reside in, regional Porsche management and their input on the impact of the packages on brand loyalty).
Would not be surprised at all that it results in different packages for each market. After all, to start with, there are different pricing structures and different standard warranty details in different markets. This will be a market by market solution.
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The only thing I'd be pissed about is if one person ends up getting something ridiculous like a fat check plus warranty and someone else ends up "hung out to dry" so to speak (e.g. well take the car back or fix it and give it to you...thats it). Not that I believe that would happen, but this whole "individual compensation package bit" is still a bit unnerving.
#6
The only thing I'd be pissed about is if one person ends up getting something ridiculous like a fat check plus warranty and someone else ends up "hung out to dry" so to speak (e.g. well take the car back or fix it and give it to you...thats it). Not that I believe that would happen, but this whole "individual compensation package bit" is still a bit unnerving.
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If I understand this correctly, the parts weren't over-stressed they were assembled with incorrect tolerances. Once the manufacturing spec is corrected there's no reason why the engine should be detuned.
BTW, nice find Nick. Thanks for posting.
BTW, nice find Nick. Thanks for posting.
#12
My friend had an engine failure affecting his 997 GT3RS due to a human error manufacturing defect affecting the actuator bolts on the timing chain.
New engine was shipped from Germany.
If several more RSs had that problem and if fire ensued, the RSs would have been recalled the same way our cars did, Mezger engine and all.
New engine was shipped from Germany.
If several more RSs had that problem and if fire ensued, the RSs would have been recalled the same way our cars did, Mezger engine and all.
#13
Rennteam
Nick didn't 'find' this. It was posted in Rennteam and he is just re-posting it in this forum. They have some active members that are well connected & often post breaking news on the subject from Germany. There are many Rennlisters actively involved in that forum too. Suggest the rest of you monitor it every once in a while.
http://www.rennteam.com/forum/page1.html?vs=3#post16
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
http://www.rennteam.com/forum/page1.html?vs=3#post16
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
#14
Nick didn't 'find' this. It was posted in Rennteam and he is just re-posting it in this forum. They have some active members that are well connected & often post breaking news on the subject from Germany. There are many Rennlisters actively involved in that forum too. Suggest the rest of you monitor it every once in a while. http://www.rennteam.com/forum/page1.html?vs=3#post16 Saludos, Eduardo Carmel .
Then, I'll reword--Thanks for posting this here, Nick. Appreciate it.
#15
Burning Brakes
Nick didn't 'find' this. It was posted in Rennteam and he is just re-posting it in this forum. They have some active members that are well connected & often post breaking news on the subject from Germany. There are many Rennlisters actively involved in that forum too. Suggest the rest of you monitor it every once in a while.
http://www.rennteam.com/forum/page1.html?vs=3#post16
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
http://www.rennteam.com/forum/page1.html?vs=3#post16
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.