Will the Recall Curtail demand for the GT3?
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So, if you are leasing the GT3 and Porsche instructs "do not drive". Then I would ask a credit back in lease payments until this is resolved. You are now making payments for a car that cannot be driven.
I am sure they will run from this request!
I am sure they will run from this request!
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I'm sure they won't. Porsche picked up the tab for a month's worth of financing on a 996 I owned when it was in the shop several years ago. Compensation for owners is definitely something that will be discussed once more is known about the time frames involved for repair in this case. Count on it....
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My car is in the Indian Ocean 2 days out from Durban on the big leg of the journey to Downunder land. I received an email form Porsche last night saying I cannot drive it and to wait further instruction. Irony of ironies is its in the hold of a boat for the next 2-3 weeks and failing a Somalian Pirate taking over control of the vessel and ragging my GT3 up the east coast of Africa until it grenades I cant see much chance of it turning over for a while. Infact the delay that was testing patience has now become handy. There is a further week of compliance after it arrives before its plated and registered before I could have driven it in any case.
I agree with MIke it will be very interesting to see if this is specific to certain VINs or a global platform issue. I say that because I drove my week/46/47 build car mercilessly through Europe for a month and it didnt miss a beat. I know three others with 5-8000km on the car now and multiple track days and apart from one having the new thermostat as a precaution again no issues whatsoever (even very little oil consumption).
I spoke to my Porsche contact and he said that this recall is separate to the oil cooler bolt/bracket campaign issued 10 days ago. That only affected a very small range of VIN. This they are still uncertain about. Porsche is working on it. Its possible a crank case, oiling related issue I have been told, but I also read on a European board this morning that it is an oil tube joint issue - perhaps both are the same - but id be very surprised if this is a design related issue either way because this car has been out there now since Nov 2013 (and prototypes much earlier) and you would have thought this would have happened by now. The cars affected apparently were both very low mileage and newly delivered I believe. There are over 700 of these now manufactured and over 500 in customers hands. I guess time will tell, its certainly not great for the Porsche brand or GT3 moniker and they are rightfully being cautious. However it may in reality only affect a very small number of cars...
I agree with MIke it will be very interesting to see if this is specific to certain VINs or a global platform issue. I say that because I drove my week/46/47 build car mercilessly through Europe for a month and it didnt miss a beat. I know three others with 5-8000km on the car now and multiple track days and apart from one having the new thermostat as a precaution again no issues whatsoever (even very little oil consumption).
I spoke to my Porsche contact and he said that this recall is separate to the oil cooler bolt/bracket campaign issued 10 days ago. That only affected a very small range of VIN. This they are still uncertain about. Porsche is working on it. Its possible a crank case, oiling related issue I have been told, but I also read on a European board this morning that it is an oil tube joint issue - perhaps both are the same - but id be very surprised if this is a design related issue either way because this car has been out there now since Nov 2013 (and prototypes much earlier) and you would have thought this would have happened by now. The cars affected apparently were both very low mileage and newly delivered I believe. There are over 700 of these now manufactured and over 500 in customers hands. I guess time will tell, its certainly not great for the Porsche brand or GT3 moniker and they are rightfully being cautious. However it may in reality only affect a very small number of cars...
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Hey Macca,I've been meaning to ask you :
Since you've imported the car,won't your warranty be affected? And here,I'm not referring to this recall but to warranty work in general... I thought warranty is covered only on the Continent where you've purchased the car... In other words,if I buy the car in the US and then take it to Europe and something that's covered under warranty breaks,will it be covered in Europe since that is a US spec car?
Thanks.
Since you've imported the car,won't your warranty be affected? And here,I'm not referring to this recall but to warranty work in general... I thought warranty is covered only on the Continent where you've purchased the car... In other words,if I buy the car in the US and then take it to Europe and something that's covered under warranty breaks,will it be covered in Europe since that is a US spec car?
Thanks.
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Thanks @Macca. Wow, if your source doesn't yet know, then it really must still be up in the air!
I'd have to imagine that with the added precautions at this point, any customer car (already delivered) and any incoming car due for PDI once the issue is identified and resolved will be looked over with a fine toothed comb for the recall issue, the thermostat, the bracket, etc.
I'd have to imagine that with the added precautions at this point, any customer car (already delivered) and any incoming car due for PDI once the issue is identified and resolved will be looked over with a fine toothed comb for the recall issue, the thermostat, the bracket, etc.
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Good post Mecca. Much will depend on what the problem is. I am with Frayed in that if the recall involves major surgery on the engine then I am not sure if I will take the car. I have an acquaintance who owns more than 50 of the top sport cars past and present and when I asked him if he would take a car which had piston rods replaced or reworking of the engine his response was less than positive.
Obviously, if it is the tube and bracket replacement it a no brainer. I love the car and want it very badly. But I also have the responsibility of being smart about a $150,000 purchase. The last thing I need is a car requiring frequent visits to the service department not to mention the possible substantial depreciation because of the recall.
Obviously, if it is the tube and bracket replacement it a no brainer. I love the car and want it very badly. But I also have the responsibility of being smart about a $150,000 purchase. The last thing I need is a car requiring frequent visits to the service department not to mention the possible substantial depreciation because of the recall.
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I'm sure they won't. Porsche picked up the tab for a month's worth of financing on a 996 I owned when it was in the shop several years ago. Compensation for owners is definitely something that will be discussed once more is known about the time frames involved for repair in this case. Count on it....
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In the interm and while batteling the GT3 withdrawals symptoms, I decided the best way to ease the withdrawals is to have a piece of my GT3 inserted into my other Porsches, such as sucking some blood (engine oil) from my GT3 to share with my other two Porsches, and hopefully not infecting them with the same virus that tends to set the GT3 on fire. With that I leave you with the following sad picture that captures this moment!
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