Consolidated 991RS thread
#976
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I base my opinion on the fact that at least 9mos will be required to complete the GT3 fiasco and the RS will follow that. No turbo, minor HP increase (5%), some additional carbon, and new aero. The test cars running around are NOT turbos, fender inlets are for cooling. This will probably be the last Road GT produced that is normally aspirated.
Just my opinion.
Allan
Just my opinion.
Allan
#977
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As you noted, the mules running around look to be NA, incremental evolutions of the new GT3, not a fundamental philosophical sea change.
There is also the issue of 981 GT4 existence/market positioning/timing.
Who knows? Let's hope not!
#978
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Audi already pointing to differentiated engines for the R8 gen 2...with Turbo's for markets where emissions inhibit NA....
Could be we revisit the late 70's...with marked engine differences/states of tune between markets..
Of course Porsche might be able to ride limited production waivers and/ or fleet averages to still secure a NA engine for RS...at least in some places...
That seems to be Lambo's path for the Huracan...
#979
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Occurs that one definite constraint point on engine choice for the RS will arise when the normally aspirated (NA) motor starts to be infeasible from an emissions standpoint....
Audi already pointing to differentiated engines for the R8 gen 2...with Turbo's for markets where emissions inhibit NA....
Could be we revisit the late 70's...with marked engine differences/states of tune between markets..
Of course Porsche might be able to ride limited production waivers and/ or fleet averages to still secure a NA engine for RS...at least in some places...
That seems to be Lambo's path for the Huracan...
Audi already pointing to differentiated engines for the R8 gen 2...with Turbo's for markets where emissions inhibit NA....
Could be we revisit the late 70's...with marked engine differences/states of tune between markets..
Of course Porsche might be able to ride limited production waivers and/ or fleet averages to still secure a NA engine for RS...at least in some places...
That seems to be Lambo's path for the Huracan...
#980
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Aren't fleet averages counted under the entire vw corporate umbrella? It's the skodas and seats which allow for the lamborghinis and bugattis to exist no?
#981
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I really like the Blutorange.
^ I agree. I have a sneaky suspicion the RS will be turbo charged and this is the delay but the delay could also be the GT3 replacement engine which has set every thing back 6 - 9 months. I think with Ferrari turbo charging the 458; Porsche is going to follow lead and try to beat them out with the RS turbo charged. Which also tells me 525 HP will be a conservative guess.
^ I agree. I have a sneaky suspicion the RS will be turbo charged and this is the delay but the delay could also be the GT3 replacement engine which has set every thing back 6 - 9 months. I think with Ferrari turbo charging the 458; Porsche is going to follow lead and try to beat them out with the RS turbo charged. Which also tells me 525 HP will be a conservative guess.
#982
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Occurs that one definite constraint point on engine choice for the RS will arise when the normally aspirated (NA) motor starts to be infeasible from an emissions standpoint....
Audi already pointing to differentiated engines for the R8 gen 2...with Turbo's for markets where emissions inhibit NA....
Could be we revisit the late 70's...with marked engine differences/states of tune between markets..
Of course Porsche might be able to ride limited production waivers and/ or fleet averages to still secure a NA engine for RS...at least in some places...
That seems to be Lambo's path for the Huracan...
Audi already pointing to differentiated engines for the R8 gen 2...with Turbo's for markets where emissions inhibit NA....
Could be we revisit the late 70's...with marked engine differences/states of tune between markets..
Of course Porsche might be able to ride limited production waivers and/ or fleet averages to still secure a NA engine for RS...at least in some places...
That seems to be Lambo's path for the Huracan...
1) venting on the rear bumper ala dual intercooler designs from the TT's since the 996...
2) new rear center exhaust design...
#983
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I base my opinion on the fact that at least 9mos will be required to complete the GT3 fiasco and the RS will follow that. No turbo, minor HP increase (5%), some additional carbon, and new aero. The test cars running around are NOT turbos, fender inlets are for cooling. This will probably be the last Road GT produced that is normally aspirated.
Just my opinion.
Allan
Just my opinion.
Allan
#984
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I really like the Blutorange.
^ I agree. I have a sneaky suspicion the RS will be turbo charged and this is the delay but the delay could also be the GT3 replacement engine which has set every thing back 6 - 9 months. I think with Ferrari turbo charging the 458; Porsche is going to follow lead and try to beat them out with the RS turbo charged. Which also tells me 525 HP will be a conservative guess.
^ I agree. I have a sneaky suspicion the RS will be turbo charged and this is the delay but the delay could also be the GT3 replacement engine which has set every thing back 6 - 9 months. I think with Ferrari turbo charging the 458; Porsche is going to follow lead and try to beat them out with the RS turbo charged. Which also tells me 525 HP will be a conservative guess.
#985
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^Who is to say that it was going to be turbo charged all along?
At this point I do not think any one has any confirmed info. that the RS will be NA. I would be surprised if it was not but who knows what direction they are headed in. If it is turbo charged I do not know how many buyers they will have but they also said that about the GT3 going PDK-only. If they put a turbo charged engine at about 575 HP and get the weight to about 3000 lbs - that would be something. In other wards; a Turbo S for racing.
At this point I do not think any one has any confirmed info. that the RS will be NA. I would be surprised if it was not but who knows what direction they are headed in. If it is turbo charged I do not know how many buyers they will have but they also said that about the GT3 going PDK-only. If they put a turbo charged engine at about 575 HP and get the weight to about 3000 lbs - that would be something. In other wards; a Turbo S for racing.
#986
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isnt that called a 'GT2 RS'
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#987
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Yep - That is why I do not know how there line-up will look when they do decide to start turbo charging all their variants. I get the GT2 because that if rear wheel drive but may be the GT2 RS ceases to exist.
Why not just make a 4.0 NA engine with 525 HP? They had no problem making it 500 hp. Why not make it 525 but limit redline to 8700rpm? Take a 150- 200 lbs out of the car and you have a good deal.
Why not just make a 4.0 NA engine with 525 HP? They had no problem making it 500 hp. Why not make it 525 but limit redline to 8700rpm? Take a 150- 200 lbs out of the car and you have a good deal.
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The RS will be a 4.0 DFI engine - that's the official stance of PCNA.