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02-26-2013, 02:47 PM
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02-26-2013, 03:03 PM
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02-26-2013, 03:04 PM
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What's the redline? I saw 9000 on the tach, but maybe that's above the actual cut-off.
I'm afraid ideas like "beat" (and all lap times) will become meaningless with this next generation of stability electronics and PDK. It won't be enough in club competition to just have points adjustment for PDK, it will have to be a whole separate class with its own times.
I expect 0-60 acceleration will be shockingly quick with launch control, especially if the up-shifts are allowing some torque multiplication).
Porsche will no doubt keep this GT3 respectfully "below" the RS 4.0 in its times but that will be a contrived pecking order.
Is the GT3 still at 3.8? Presumably the 991 RS will be at 4.0 (or larger?) Here's praying for dramatic improvements to feel and feedback.
I'm afraid ideas like "beat" (and all lap times) will become meaningless with this next generation of stability electronics and PDK. It won't be enough in club competition to just have points adjustment for PDK, it will have to be a whole separate class with its own times.
I expect 0-60 acceleration will be shockingly quick with launch control, especially if the up-shifts are allowing some torque multiplication).
Porsche will no doubt keep this GT3 respectfully "below" the RS 4.0 in its times but that will be a contrived pecking order.
Is the GT3 still at 3.8? Presumably the 991 RS will be at 4.0 (or larger?) Here's praying for dramatic improvements to feel and feedback.
02-26-2013, 03:30 PM
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I honestly don't see the benefit of it either unless you have AWD.
I guess suspension tuning is antiquated now as well.
02-26-2013, 03:50 PM
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It means you can now trail brake like a retard and not have to worry about rotation or being smooth on and off throttle since the retard sensors will fix it for you and keep the car from over rotating. Probably will also make the car feel like it understeers even more, mean while it eats up your brake pads and rotors.
02-26-2013, 04:13 PM
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His point was that to be as effective as PTV you would need to control breaking force on each wheel independently, for which you would need 5 legs. There should be no doubt that PTV done right should be faster than any human can be, simply because humans just do not have controls for doing what PTV does. I do not know how I feel about PTV on track yet though - hope it's not removing control from the driver.
02-26-2013, 04:13 PM
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Exactly.
It means you can now trail brake like a retard and not have to worry about rotation or being smooth on and off throttle since the retard sensors will fix it for you and keep the car from over rotating. Probably will also make the car feel like it understeers even more, mean while it eats up your brake pads and rotors.
02-26-2013, 04:30 PM
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His point was that to be as effective as PTV you would need to control breaking force on each wheel independently, for which you would need 5 legs. There should be no doubt that PTV done right should be faster than any human can be, simply because humans just do not have controls for doing what PTV does. I do not know how I feel about PTV on track yet though - hope it's not removing control from the driver.
So I would only need 1 extra foot then?
02-26-2013, 04:36 PM
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Some of these guys...ay ay ay
02-26-2013, 04:44 PM
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PTV is bad news for rear rotors and brake pads. Just ask my buddy whose rear ceramic rotors are worn down to the indicators after ony a few track days.
02-26-2013, 04:49 PM
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Boy am I glad I really love my 6GT3 
I could never master all these new acronyms PSM, PASM, TC, PTV, PDK, PMS 
etc. I have a hard enough time just driving and remembering how push 3 pedals.
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I could never master all these new acronyms PSM, PASM, TC, PTV, PDK, PMS etc. I have a hard enough time just driving and remembering how push 3 pedals. Peter
02-26-2013, 05:07 PM
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Maybe the new GT3 will also get track specific PPD (Porsche Piloted Driving)???
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02-26-2013, 05:13 PM
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Actually, if you think about it, PTV can be manually replicated with two feet (assuming RWD) - right foot applying throttle and left foot applying brakes to the inside wheel. No need for brakes on the outside wheel - you can just give less throttle.
Which prompts a thought - when I left-foot brake (started learning this year), I overlap brakes and throttle a little bit on turn entry. I can see how PTV could mess it up. Hope it does not.
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02-26-2013, 06:07 PM
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PTV is the electronically controlled limited slip technology for the differential. The "+" part adds automated braking to the inside rear wheel to rotate the car for faster turn-in (rather than slow the car during the turn as in trail braking, which one can still do).
According to reports that comes at the cost of increasing rear pad temps and wear as a trade off for the increased performance it generates, which depending on upbringing is either wonderful or immoral.
According to reports that comes at the cost of increasing rear pad temps and wear as a trade off for the increased performance it generates, which depending on upbringing is either wonderful or immoral.