991.2 GT3 RS to 992 Turbo?
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RS is a terrible DD in my opinion.
I would take my TTS any day on a long drive or errands. The RS is for the track or that special canyon road.
A friend recently bought a 2019 RS I think it lasted 2 months B4 the switch to the TTS.
Everyone needs to drive these cars and evaluate them for there own needs.
Ian
I would take my TTS any day on a long drive or errands. The RS is for the track or that special canyon road.
A friend recently bought a 2019 RS I think it lasted 2 months B4 the switch to the TTS.
Everyone needs to drive these cars and evaluate them for there own needs.
Ian
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For me the difference can be captured in two numbers, 1,200 and 33,000, the number of miles I have put on each car. The RS is an “experience” every time you drive it, however, at least where I live, where we get a variety of weather and traffic conditions, the TTS just makes more sense in more situations, for example a drive out to the yacht club, or a trip from New York to Boston. Together, in fact, they make a great pair. Finally, I would add, the TTS has a terrific spirit and driving character of its own- about as different from the RS as you can get, but amazing and fun in its own way.
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Two personalities:
-For me, GT3 RS the purest form of Porsche without compromise and still fun to drive on roads....closest to a Cup Car, just excellent
-TTS probably most complete sport car for road and DD, incl trackability....afraid of being disappointed on track, since the expectation level is so high, coming from GT3 RS
-For me, GT3 RS the purest form of Porsche without compromise and still fun to drive on roads....closest to a Cup Car, just excellent
-TTS probably most complete sport car for road and DD, incl trackability....afraid of being disappointed on track, since the expectation level is so high, coming from GT3 RS
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I’ve driven both models on a track, in both wet and dry conditions. RS is amazing, of course. The TTS holds up well and makes up time on the straits. On days where the track is a bit wet, I without question preferred the TTS.
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Love the GT3RS for track days (4-7 events/year), however it s not very useful for DD.
Since 992 Turbo seems to be a credible track car, I was wondering how much compromise, I d had to take.
On the upside, enjoy DD every day in the year.
Would appreciate any thoughts - thank you.
Since 992 Turbo seems to be a credible track car, I was wondering how much compromise, I d had to take.
On the upside, enjoy DD every day in the year.
Would appreciate any thoughts - thank you.
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Love the GT3RS for track days (4-7 events/year), however it s not very useful for DD.
Since 992 Turbo seems to be a credible track car, I was wondering how much compromise, I d had to take.
On the upside, enjoy DD every day in the year.
Would appreciate any thoughts - thank you.
Since 992 Turbo seems to be a credible track car, I was wondering how much compromise, I d had to take.
On the upside, enjoy DD every day in the year.
Would appreciate any thoughts - thank you.
The GT3 makes you want to be a better driver.
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You know when you post this question in this subforum, you will get GT bias answers.
Actually, I would like to ask you instead, how do you feel driving an AWD 911?
Why I ask is because a RR 911 responds completely different to a AWD 911. The RR for me feels nimble, responsive vs AWD that felt less responsive and less communicative.
I'm choosing not to use words like dull, poor feedback because no 911 regardless of RR or AWD are associated with those terms.
Actually, I would like to ask you instead, how do you feel driving an AWD 911?
Why I ask is because a RR 911 responds completely different to a AWD 911. The RR for me feels nimble, responsive vs AWD that felt less responsive and less communicative.
I'm choosing not to use words like dull, poor feedback because no 911 regardless of RR or AWD are associated with those terms.
I guess if I lived in Miami or LA I might DD a GT3RS...but up here in Chicagoland, a TTS is more usable.
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For me the difference can be captured in two numbers, 1,200 and 33,000, the number of miles I have put on each car. The RS is an “experience” every time you drive it, however, at least where I live, where we get a variety of weather and traffic conditions, the TTS just makes more sense in more situations, for example a drive out to the yacht club, or a trip from New York to Boston. Together, in fact, they make a great pair. Finally, I would add, the TTS has a terrific spirit and driving character of its own- about as different from the RS as you can get, but amazing and fun in its own way.
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RS is a terrible DD in my opinion.
I would take my TTS any day on a long drive or errands. The RS is for the track or that special canyon road.
A friend recently bought a 2019 RS I think it lasted 2 months B4 the switch to the TTS.
Everyone needs to drive these cars and evaluate them for there own needs.
Ian
I would take my TTS any day on a long drive or errands. The RS is for the track or that special canyon road.
A friend recently bought a 2019 RS I think it lasted 2 months B4 the switch to the TTS.
Everyone needs to drive these cars and evaluate them for there own needs.
Ian
I drove both cars. The 991.2 GT3RS was lizard green with the aurum wheels. Sharp car, an event once on a smooth highway. Then I drove it around town a bit. A little too rough for the street IMO. But MAN what a sweet *ss car to drive, holy cow. It didn't have a few options I really liked.
If I had it to do over again?? It'd be a 50/50 call, there really is no bad decision.
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The new 992 is a beast. Not many car will beat it in 1/4 mile.
for track duty, change lower control arms to GT3, set camber at 2.4 fron, 1.9 rear. The get a DSC sport box and download various setting and pick one that fits you. Tom at TPC is a great resource here.
For track days, replace pads and tires/ rims.
these three simple items, lower control arms, DSC and tires, will make the TTS an animal on the track.
for track duty, change lower control arms to GT3, set camber at 2.4 fron, 1.9 rear. The get a DSC sport box and download various setting and pick one that fits you. Tom at TPC is a great resource here.
For track days, replace pads and tires/ rims.
these three simple items, lower control arms, DSC and tires, will make the TTS an animal on the track.
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overheating remains an issue on TTS on track, even after intercoolers.
RS, consistent lap after lap, thus giving the driver the chance to get better.
I speak from personal experience with both.
RS, consistent lap after lap, thus giving the driver the chance to get better.
I speak from personal experience with both.
The new 992 is a beast. Not many car will beat it in 1/4 mile.
for track duty, change lower control arms to GT3, set camber at 2.4 fron, 1.9 rear. The get a DSC sport box and download various setting and pick one that fits you. Tom at TPC is a great resource here.
For track days, replace pads and tires/ rims.
these three simple items, lower control arms, DSC and tires, will make the TTS an animal on the track.
for track duty, change lower control arms to GT3, set camber at 2.4 fron, 1.9 rear. The get a DSC sport box and download various setting and pick one that fits you. Tom at TPC is a great resource here.
For track days, replace pads and tires/ rims.
these three simple items, lower control arms, DSC and tires, will make the TTS an animal on the track.
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I bought a new 991.2 TTS back in August (for an amazing discount!) as an alternative to my track prepped 991.1 GT3RS. They are vastly different cars. Each at their own end of the spectrum. I bought the TTS with the potential of selling the RS as my track time these days is quite limited. The plan was to get rid of the RS for the 3-4 track weekends I do per year and just simplify life a bit.
I haven’t sold the RS yet as the two cars are worlds apart and provide unique driving experiences.
If you can swing it, pick up a 991.2 TTS and keep the RS for the fun days. It really is the best of both worlds.
But I also don’t DD either - have an SUV for that.
I haven’t sold the RS yet as the two cars are worlds apart and provide unique driving experiences.
If you can swing it, pick up a 991.2 TTS and keep the RS for the fun days. It really is the best of both worlds.
But I also don’t DD either - have an SUV for that.
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It wasn't the cars fault but it was that I wanted to consolidate and make it do things that it wasn't good at.
To the OP - If you get in the TT-S and still yearn for a 3RS you will spend more money getting back into one. This really sounds like bad advice now but the best thing is to have both and to get rid of one when your truly "over it" or when your taste/preferences change.
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This basic decision is what forced me to finally start thinking of a small fleet of cars versus which car to get.
We have a family luxury SUV and my wife’s DD. Based on the changes to the 991.1/2 compared to prior generations, I was planning to get a new GT3 for a do-it-all DD and trackday car with the SUV as backup.
She asked me if insurance covered trackdays.... once I checked the price of track insurance, I quickly realized that adding a low level race car for track duty would cost about the same amount as insurance and consumables on a new GT3.
So I decided to start on a Spec Boxster, great. Then I found the allocations issue and started to think harder. I realized with a dedicated track car, I wanted a turbo more, so I went that route. Great car.
Life happened, I sold it for a loss, kept the Boxster project, bought an Alfa 4C weekend and canyon toy, and later on I added an old 997.1 so I wouldn’t have to daily the SUV or Alfa. The Alfa, Spec Boxster, and 997 together are cheaper than the new turbo was. And together they do a better job at the spectrum of my life, but if we had a spare $200k I’d upgrade the 997 to a new turbo and keep the others.... but instead I’d maybe swap the 997 for a CPO Carrera and spend the rest in on another race or weekend car...
I don’t know what’s best. Depends what you want to do. The better you understand what you actually want, the happier you’ll be with your purchase.
And on the on-track experience in a 991.2 TT, I took my turbo to the track. I had been running my mostly-Spec Boxster. The turbo was quite fast and immensely capable, but it felt out of place. The stock brakes were overheating at a long 150+ mph straight, it was heavy and I felt the weight everywhere, and the car was doing a lot of torque shuffling and PDCC and RWS and TC games. It felt like cheating, and it made me think it was like an old out of shape ex-pro football player jumped into a college game to show the kids how it’s done - while it appeared to be a star to everyone, inside it felt quite out of shape and in the wrong place. It was fun to do once but I like a dedicated track car better.
We have a family luxury SUV and my wife’s DD. Based on the changes to the 991.1/2 compared to prior generations, I was planning to get a new GT3 for a do-it-all DD and trackday car with the SUV as backup.
She asked me if insurance covered trackdays.... once I checked the price of track insurance, I quickly realized that adding a low level race car for track duty would cost about the same amount as insurance and consumables on a new GT3.
So I decided to start on a Spec Boxster, great. Then I found the allocations issue and started to think harder. I realized with a dedicated track car, I wanted a turbo more, so I went that route. Great car.
Life happened, I sold it for a loss, kept the Boxster project, bought an Alfa 4C weekend and canyon toy, and later on I added an old 997.1 so I wouldn’t have to daily the SUV or Alfa. The Alfa, Spec Boxster, and 997 together are cheaper than the new turbo was. And together they do a better job at the spectrum of my life, but if we had a spare $200k I’d upgrade the 997 to a new turbo and keep the others.... but instead I’d maybe swap the 997 for a CPO Carrera and spend the rest in on another race or weekend car...
I don’t know what’s best. Depends what you want to do. The better you understand what you actually want, the happier you’ll be with your purchase.
And on the on-track experience in a 991.2 TT, I took my turbo to the track. I had been running my mostly-Spec Boxster. The turbo was quite fast and immensely capable, but it felt out of place. The stock brakes were overheating at a long 150+ mph straight, it was heavy and I felt the weight everywhere, and the car was doing a lot of torque shuffling and PDCC and RWS and TC games. It felt like cheating, and it made me think it was like an old out of shape ex-pro football player jumped into a college game to show the kids how it’s done - while it appeared to be a star to everyone, inside it felt quite out of shape and in the wrong place. It was fun to do once but I like a dedicated track car better.
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