GlazierGlaze

I am new here (Just sold my BMW M4) and am trying to understand this whole 991.1 engine debacle. Is there somewhere where I can learn the specifics about this? I've been looking at 991.1 GT3s as my next car.

robmypro

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...ouncement.html

Aussiefishy

Hello all, just signed on the dotted line for a higher mileage, 2014 .1 with G series replacement engine recently installed. It has been my dream to get into this car since it came out, and thru 2 model generations this still looks the best in my eyes, So I did it.

I largely followed ITRSTEVE’s logic, and here are my answers to his questions:

1. PDK - I plan to drive the car more than a Sunday treat, therefore on days where I need to be driving around like a normal 9-5 person I need a car with enough convenience and ease. The PDK is part of that. Also, I had a 718GT4 before this and it was manual. It’s a very nice treat, but on a daily usability front it’s not as convenient and stress free as a PDK. Also, this generation only has PDK, making decision less difficult 🤣🤣 IMHO.

2 &3: To a potential buyer which actually drive the car and use it in normal conditions, depreciation can be steep if you are buying a museum piece and add mileage, so I look for 20k + mileage examples for comparison. The delta between .1 and .2 here would be around 50k++ CAD. I picked ones that has a higher mileage driven, and a number I feel comfortable to begin my depreciation at. Again if money is no object, .2 would be better in a lot of ways. But I love the looks of the .1 and for a newbie like me, a 3.8 would be plenty in my view. Plus I can save the delta for any potential repairs. In my case, a G series was installed 3K miles ago so it make sense.

4. Having a GT3 in my mind means to get the fun you have to spend seat time. And I feel much less stress and second thinking driving in a car with more mileage than one with only a few thousand KM. Again, driving is the main part of enjoyment for me of having such car and the PDK will also simplify things when on track, give you more focus on driving and feeling your new car as well.

5. again, buying a cheaper example will make me worrying about depression much less. After signing on the dotted line, I really don’t care if it worth 100k or 85k in 4 years, I just want to be able to enjoy it and learn with it!!!

My two cents are buy the one you want. You know deep down what and how much you are comfortable owning. Pick one and start driving!!!

cheers!

Skid

Just saying “G-series” isn’t enough info… so far G6 replacements seem to be bulletproof, while G0’s continue to have some failures. Seems the addition of the oil spray mods in the G6 variant have been the solution. That engine is pretty much a destroked RS.

Aussiefishy

Yes mine is a G6xxx engine code… should be good to go. 🤞

Buddhamonk

Gas will be $24/gallon in 2024. You won’t drive it very much

gt3fast

Great point, in that case, I will just drive my 356. I bought my .1 2015 last June, and bought a 84 month/100k mile extended platinum plan from Porsche. So I'm good until 6/28.

slipaway37

For the .1 (cannot verify .2) yes you can as I did; however, I believe the vehicle being covered under the CPO warranty when requested was a key factor (unsubstantiated) to approval as well as the selected dealer I am sure played a vital role in the process.
CPO was due to expire Sep 2022, and I requested the warranty underwriting exception early May which was approved at an $8K cost (max coverage). I now have an additional 6 yrs/80K miles transferable Porsche Platinum VSC (https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessor...ctionplan/vsp/).
And wouldn't ya know it, original engine threw that "golden CeL" first week of June at 23,823 miles which would have been covered until 2024. Vehicle had approx 11k miles at purchase with unknown track history.
Expecting the vehicle returned for engine break-in within next two weeks, and STOKED! This beast is all sorts of "covered" for several years to come.
We shall put her to the test to see if the G6 also is prone to another finger follower failure, but have not heard of any G-Series failures save one which was some other engine anomaly (but there may be a few). I doubt many of the already replaced engines have reached high enough mileage to judge the G6 reliability.
A reliable Porsche representative said that sustained RPMs > 6k range is key to failure, and that ALL 2014 engines will eventually go: who knows. I believe the only "safe" place to reach such sustained RPMs is on a track.
All I know is that Porsche have provided me one hell of a GT car to literally drive the snot out of on the daily with zero worries other than a potential car jacking for which I have a .45 ACP surprise.
I highly doubt you'll suffer ANY regrets purchasing a .1, but I'd own both if I could!

OnlySoMany

I had a 2015 GT3 and a 2018. From what I understand, there is an identifier in the VIN number that lets you know if it was an affected car that had the engine issues. Someone smarter than me will likely link the RL thread that showed how to identify it. Too drunk right now to do research.

BTW, I'd go 991.2. Better engine, resale value, better-looking taillights, front bumper, and IMO better steering feel. The 3.8 feels more "manic", the 4.0 more refined. My $0.02. I have had both and the .2 was a better car overall.

Plus the .1 steering wheel sucks. .2 is smaller and looks better.

Jickel180

The .1 is certainly more raw in the ride, shifting, steering, and noises. The visual stuff is subjective. I prefer the .1 bumpers, and think it's the best looking GT3 made to date. I prefer the tail light on the .1 at night, but prefer the .2 lights shape in the daylight. The .1 steering wheel does absolutely suck though. Way too big of a diameter for the car and too plasticky. Been needing to switch my wheel to a RS or .2...

gt3fast

Man the .1 steering wheel is one of my favorite parts of the car. The stainless appearance versus the all black 356 throw back center horn button. imo makes all the difference. In any event the 991.1 and 991.2 are far more appealing in appearance than the new 992. The front spoiler is nothing but one long piece of plastic, no separation by painted services. And the yellow writing on the shifter, what's up with that. And the cup holder, no longer hidden away, looks like it could hold a beer stein. One peanuts opinion.

Aussiefishy

From my driving observation at speed as well as coming from a 718 GT4, I do agree the diameter of the .1 steering wheel is rather big. the GT4/ 911.2 wheel is superior and that would be my next mod.

mtx450

Bumping this thread up just as some time has passed and engine warranties are fast approaching!

I'm about to sign on the dotted line for a 2015 GT3 with an F motor, sitting at roughly 24k miles. Will be pursuing VSP via the dealer. Also had the option to CPO but that only covers 2 years which lines up with the engine warranty. I think I'll get more coverage out of the VSP from Porsche.

Happy to hear anyone's thoughts, thank you!

slipaway37

Was the car not already under CPO? 2023 is right on the CPO cusp within the 8 year limitation.
You will want both like I had. Extend that coverage another 6 years past the 2 yr CPO with the VSP program.
Have fun and drive her hard like designed. I believe the F-series motors are a bit more robust in their attempt to remedy the FF issues, but also seems to no rhyme or reason to any of it, lol.

mtx450

Yes, car is currently under CPO until June. So definitely looking into VSP, but I thought that was based off of the original factory warranty start date?