Track Car Advice
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superdog (08-30-2019)
#32
I’d do 2-3 racing schools to learn car control. That $10k is worth way more than tracking a lame Miata for a few years while you suffer from separation anxiety from the RS sitting in the garage. These schools separate the men from the boys - either you have it or you don’t - it will be quite obvious. Then you can judge what comfort level you’d have driving a beast like the RS. I went through this process a few years ago with a handful of friends - 2 of us were the best in the 1st program and the other 4 were scared ****less and couldn’t get out of there fast enough. My buddy and I finished up the next two programs and my current track car has 650 hp and I feel just as comfortable in it as I did the 150hp formula or spec Miata cars from race school.
Also, why would you keep a Targa over 458? If you end up getting the RS (seems inevitable), the RS/458 combo is way cooler and more diverse, not to mention the 458 will likely depreciates less.
Also, why would you keep a Targa over 458? If you end up getting the RS (seems inevitable), the RS/458 combo is way cooler and more diverse, not to mention the 458 will likely depreciates less.
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Jon D (09-06-2019)
#33
There are a lot of ways to scratch that itch. As others mentioned a good instructor in the passenger seat on track will advance you further over solo track driving in any car. When track days become boring then rent some seat time with a lemons team. Wheel to wheel racing is another level. Even when driving a junker.
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superdog (08-30-2019)
#34
Some really great comments here.
In regard to keeping the targa over the 458, I just like it better. I’m surprised by this too. But imho, it’s a way better car. I’ve also always loved the look and styling of the targa. In fact, it’s because I like the targa as much as I do, that I’m now pushing to get into another Porsche. The only other thing I might do, is nothing and keep the current line up while adding a track car. Which might just be a GT4 as it appears it might be the best blend of everything I’m looking for.
In regard to depreciation, I’m sure I’m wrong here because the 458 has already taken its hits, but I keep hearing how the targa is rare and hard to get. It’s also a manual. I have delusions that it’ll hold value pretty well. Pics below.
I also agree on the track school. I’m fine spending the 10k on that and then making a decision. I’m not in a huge rush.
Ive actually got an appointment today with my instructor. We are going to go over the game plan. And this guy is a no BS type dude. My guess is I’ll ultimately follow his lead.
MI’m also looking at an rs today. Just to see if this is something I’d really like to do.
I love the 458. It’s incredible. But in terms of drivability, it’s not even comparable to the Targa. I’m far more confident in the Porsche. Still not sure I can part with it.
But hey, all this speculation has been fun. I’m having a blast. So thanks for the comments fellas.
In regard to keeping the targa over the 458, I just like it better. I’m surprised by this too. But imho, it’s a way better car. I’ve also always loved the look and styling of the targa. In fact, it’s because I like the targa as much as I do, that I’m now pushing to get into another Porsche. The only other thing I might do, is nothing and keep the current line up while adding a track car. Which might just be a GT4 as it appears it might be the best blend of everything I’m looking for.
In regard to depreciation, I’m sure I’m wrong here because the 458 has already taken its hits, but I keep hearing how the targa is rare and hard to get. It’s also a manual. I have delusions that it’ll hold value pretty well. Pics below.
I also agree on the track school. I’m fine spending the 10k on that and then making a decision. I’m not in a huge rush.
Ive actually got an appointment today with my instructor. We are going to go over the game plan. And this guy is a no BS type dude. My guess is I’ll ultimately follow his lead.
MI’m also looking at an rs today. Just to see if this is something I’d really like to do.
I love the 458. It’s incredible. But in terms of drivability, it’s not even comparable to the Targa. I’m far more confident in the Porsche. Still not sure I can part with it.
But hey, all this speculation has been fun. I’m having a blast. So thanks for the comments fellas.
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HelpMeHelpU (08-30-2019)
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#37
This is the conundrum. I started out in 2013 with slower cars and spent way more money on cars & mods getting to a GT3 then I needed too and I am still not fast. If I had just gotten the GT3 initially and spent the rest of the $ on instructors I would be a lot faster. The slippery slope here is once you're hooked you will always want a better faster car. I do think Joe has struck the perfect balance with the spec Miata and the 3RS though.
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HelpMeHelpU (08-30-2019)
#38
Ok, shameless plug here. If you're looking for a track-ready car, you're going to have a tough time beating my .1 GT3 I put on the market earlier this week.
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1158292
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1158292
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#39
Keep the GTS. It's beautiful. Can't think of a better road car.
Lots of good advice already. Not sure what else I an add other than I agree that starting out in a lower powered car will yield huge benefits in acquiring real driving skills. I also think I would have killed myself if I had started with a GT3. It took me a lot of track time and several cars to be able to appreciate how much trouble it could get me into if my ego got ahead of my skills. Maybe you have much better impulse control; I didn't. I like going fast and testing limits. Much better to do it initially in a slower car. My first Cayman S taught me a lot. I 2nd Joe's recommendation there. You could buy one, track it and sell it for near nothing. Make sure you just get an '09+ since they are very track ready out of the box. Also agree with adding safety equipment before all the other crap many track addicts add before (exhaust, suspension, DSC boxes, etc, etc. etc).
Lots of good advice already. Not sure what else I an add other than I agree that starting out in a lower powered car will yield huge benefits in acquiring real driving skills. I also think I would have killed myself if I had started with a GT3. It took me a lot of track time and several cars to be able to appreciate how much trouble it could get me into if my ego got ahead of my skills. Maybe you have much better impulse control; I didn't. I like going fast and testing limits. Much better to do it initially in a slower car. My first Cayman S taught me a lot. I 2nd Joe's recommendation there. You could buy one, track it and sell it for near nothing. Make sure you just get an '09+ since they are very track ready out of the box. Also agree with adding safety equipment before all the other crap many track addicts add before (exhaust, suspension, DSC boxes, etc, etc. etc).
#40
Okay folks. It’s been a fun few days obsessing over cars.
And Ive literally debated everything.
I’m now between a 2010 Cayman S or a 2016 Miata. Likely going Miata for the newer car.
First order of business is roll cage, seats, belts and all safety gear.
I did drive a GT3. Wow. What a car. But not willing to part with the 458. In fact, I’ll be bringing that to the next track day in about a month. Might as well text it out.
I agree with many comments saying I should start slow. It took me a while to get here though.
So I likely now have this in the wrong area. Maybe even the wrong forum. Thanks everyone for the feedback. It was super helpful.
And Ive literally debated everything.
I’m now between a 2010 Cayman S or a 2016 Miata. Likely going Miata for the newer car.
First order of business is roll cage, seats, belts and all safety gear.
I did drive a GT3. Wow. What a car. But not willing to part with the 458. In fact, I’ll be bringing that to the next track day in about a month. Might as well text it out.
I agree with many comments saying I should start slow. It took me a while to get here though.
So I likely now have this in the wrong area. Maybe even the wrong forum. Thanks everyone for the feedback. It was super helpful.
#42
but how about a fast car, meets faster car. Lmao.
#43
Originally Posted by superdog
Okay folks. It’s been a fun few days obsessing over cars.
And Ive literally debated everything.
I’m now between a 2010 Cayman S or a 2016 Miata. Likely going Miata for the newer car.
First order of business is roll cage, seats, belts and all safety gear.
I did drive a GT3. Wow. What a car. But not willing to part with the 458. In fact, I’ll be bringing that to the next track day in about a month. Might as well text it out.
I agree with many comments saying I should start slow. It took me a while to get here though.
So I likely now have this in the wrong area. Maybe even the wrong forum. Thanks everyone for the feedback. It was super helpful.
And Ive literally debated everything.
I’m now between a 2010 Cayman S or a 2016 Miata. Likely going Miata for the newer car.
First order of business is roll cage, seats, belts and all safety gear.
I did drive a GT3. Wow. What a car. But not willing to part with the 458. In fact, I’ll be bringing that to the next track day in about a month. Might as well text it out.
I agree with many comments saying I should start slow. It took me a while to get here though.
So I likely now have this in the wrong area. Maybe even the wrong forum. Thanks everyone for the feedback. It was super helpful.
#44
Originally Posted by superdog
I wonder the details behind that.
but how about a fast car, meets faster car. Lmao.
but how about a fast car, meets faster car. Lmao.
Looks to me like the RS, overshot and didn't account for the lower speed he needed to enter the corner by being off line and that caused a whole bunch of other issues entering a complex corner.
#45
Go slow and enjoy the process.
Buy upgrades and cars as you need them.
Im still sticking to what I would do, is the most fun course of action.
This is the beginning, loads of car repair, mods, upgrades, track cars, tow vehicles and trailers in your future.
It’s like shoveling $100 dollar bills into the fire place. No need to hurry.
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phefner (09-05-2019)