yesyoucan

My experience at Sonoma and doing some data analysis with others.

in a 1:48 lap:

Full throttle in a porsche gt4 is for 47 total seconds
Full throttle in a mclaren 675 for 16 total seconds
Full throttle in a mclaren P1 for 12 seconds.

In a gt3/gt3rs.1 you can go full throttle between turn 4 to brake zone in turn 6 (not possible to do that in the mclarens (too much speed)
In a gt3/gt3rs.1 you can go full throttle out of the eses to brake zone in turn 10 (not possible to do that in the mclaren (too much speed)
In a gt3/gt3rs.1 you can go full throttle from turn 11 to turn 1 (it's possible in the mclarens but extremely risky to do that).

The above is for people who have a lot of experience at Somoma. CJ doesn't have anywhere close to the experience or the time in the cars that others are posting in this thread. He did an extremely good job to get those lap times.

Much more skill needed to extract the same lap times in the mclarens vs. the porsche's.

Laguna Seca and Thunderhill is where you can use the speeds of the mclaren's.

C.J. Ichiban

yes it is flat exiting the hairpin until after start finish/up the hill depending on tire warmth and ball size

Mvez

What I like most about the PCCB (on any Porsche model) is because of this additional bite, the PCCB ABS programs are a bit less intrusive (compared to steel), so if you swap for steel rotors, you get less aggressive ABS which is better for the track. My old 997.1RS had PCCB (converted to steel) and had less ABS/Ice mode intervention than stock steel. Not any different than why for Spec 987 racing, they let 987.1 owners re-program to PCCB ABS in PIWIS for slightly less ABS jump in.

After being on Grand full NCM this weekend with DS1.11 pads, and having way too many ABS interventions (on both Cup2 and Pirelli DH takeoffs), I'm going to see if I can have my ABS switched to PCCB mode as well. Now I kinda wished I would have opted for PCCB instead of steel. I honestly forgot about this little tidbit of information at the time of my order.

C.J. Ichiban

I'd really like to drive the 720 and 675 and GT3RS and Mono against each other at Thunderhill.

I can echo your sentiments that the amount of actual full throttle driving diminishes with each bump in HP from 400 to 700 to P1/918 level.
The F3 cars around sonoma are flat or on the brakes, almost no coasting but the mclarens need a lot more partial throttle...I also think that part of that is being a mid engined car- you need to be more delicate whereas the RS / 911 platform with the massive tires allows for harder footwork inputs.

I know from my experience the other day that the big speed giveaway for me was actually Turn 1...hesitant to roll too much speed up the hill since last time we were out there together. That time I was in my 675 I tracked all the way right and ended up in the grass at the apex of 2 and lost the plastic air dam...tried to be a hero through T1 and could not get the car to turn.

frankly I think the 675 through the esses is the most confident car out of the bunch, and that the nannies in the 720 (I did not manage to get drift mode fully functional in 6 laps) definitely saved my footwork on the big power sweeper right hander (T4 into T5) before carousel.

C.J. Ichiban

I saw that in the PCA rule changes...interesting that you can change ABS flash now.

The PCCB is more of the same feel you get in the pro race cars- you have to smash for a big initial hit and then immediately trail off pressure to avoid lockup etc.

Needsdecaf

Would love to be listening more, but no new content recently. Miss you two.

And, as many others have stated, thanks to CJ (and you too Rich!) for putting this show on. Bravo, great stuff. Hopefully in the future you can get a 718 GT4 out there to compare if someone is generous enough.

C.J. Ichiban

that won't be an issue.
the biggest issue is that when I have been free recently- rich is doing this whole saving people lives with heart transplant things.

WHATEVER BRO

neoprufrok

LOL. I'm on it. Getting the podcast postprocessing lab mobile... so should be able to knock them out quicker.

Needsdecaf

LOL, Rich you selfish bastard! You need to be focusing on the important thing like making podcasts! Forget those people and their lives, don't you know what really matters!?!?!

I'm never going to complain about free entertainment that someone else is providing for next to no compensation (if absolutely none) out of their own life. Thanks to both of you for doing all of this to keep us informed and entertained. Looking forward to hearing Boochi's report from the Culinanny press launch.

MaxLTV

Hahah, sounds familiar. Many of us have done that. Luckily, the uphill helps to slow down enough for it not to be catastrophic. No damage of any kind from this T1 hero attempt :-)

Mvez

That is exactly why I like pads which give a similar pedal effect. The PFC08 required a lot of effort, but allowed an aggressive jump in without ABS kicking in, and then you spend the remainder of the brake zone trailing off. It encourages more efficient braking. Was great for 911, and street ABS. Still use it in my 987.1. These new generation of pads, all with uber-flat, super high torque curves still just don't play nice with street GT ABS, IMO. And I'm not somebody who jumps on the brakes, you can literally tip-toe in on DS1.11 and the ABS jumps in.

groundhog

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yesyoucan

I'm intimately aware of this... let's just say that 720s specifically is better suited for Thunderhill and Laguna Seca where it can use it's power.

1;51 at thunderhill and according to Andrie (whom many people on this thread know... it's a 1:48 car at Thunderhill).

groundhog

^^^ Great - thanks for sharing