Looks like PDKs are already being sold at close MSRP on secondary market
08-03-2018, 02:15 PM
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I wouldn't say that. GT4's are selling for $10-15k back of MSRP. Pretty good for a 2+ year old car! In most cases that's only 10 - 15% depreciation in 2+ years. Normal cars that is much higher!
08-03-2018, 02:29 PM
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In fact, an '17 AV coupe is currently going for 21% below MSRP!
Granted it has 4K miles but it's discounted $103,000 from it's MSRP.
FYI - I have no affiliation with the dealership...
>>> 2017 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR S COUPE
>>> MSRP $503,205
>>> 4K MILES
>>> INTERNET SPECIAL PRICE $399,950
>>> 21% BELOW MSRP
>>> http://www.lamborghinisarasota.com/d...-17911200.html
08-03-2018, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Addicted-2-Speed
Really great point you raise Dr.Bill.
In fact, an '17 AV coupe is currently going for 21% below MSRP!
Granted it has 4K miles but it's discounted $103,000 from it's MSRP.
FYI - I have no affiliation with the dealership...
>>> 2017 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR S COUPE
>>> MSRP $503,205
>>> 4K MILES
>>> INTERNET SPECIAL PRICE $399,950
>>> 21% BELOW MSRP
>>> http://www.lamborghinisarasota.com/d...-17911200.html
In fact, an '17 AV coupe is currently going for 21% below MSRP!
Granted it has 4K miles but it's discounted $103,000 from it's MSRP.
FYI - I have no affiliation with the dealership...
>>> 2017 LAMBORGHINI AVENTADOR S COUPE
>>> MSRP $503,205
>>> 4K MILES
>>> INTERNET SPECIAL PRICE $399,950
>>> 21% BELOW MSRP
>>> http://www.lamborghinisarasota.com/d...-17911200.html
08-03-2018, 02:43 PM
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$10-15K back of MSRP in 2 years is incredibly good deprecation on a toy....as noted the AV coupe lost a ton and my '17 Lusso was 23% off MSRP in one year.....granted I don't think you can fully compare the 2 segments as point of entry is so spread apart....
08-04-2018, 03:33 AM
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yes some price up
some price down
but is anyone buying?
if not, price no matter.
some price down
but is anyone buying?
if not, price no matter.
08-04-2018, 01:37 PM
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A big factor keeping GT car prices high were the large number of investors, with little if any interest in cars, that believed
investing Cash in appreciating cars was preferable to depositing cash in Banks offering only a small fraction of 1% for Cash.
Recently completely safe investments, such as Treasury Bill Rates are rising to over 2% and are likely to keep rising with
growing National Debts. Many of these Investors are now leaving a softening Market and Car resale prices are falling both
in the U.S. and Europe. My guess is the resale Automobile market will continue to soften as the payment of Government Taxes
on Automobile purchases nullify expected profits for investors on resale.
investing Cash in appreciating cars was preferable to depositing cash in Banks offering only a small fraction of 1% for Cash.
Recently completely safe investments, such as Treasury Bill Rates are rising to over 2% and are likely to keep rising with
growing National Debts. Many of these Investors are now leaving a softening Market and Car resale prices are falling both
in the U.S. and Europe. My guess is the resale Automobile market will continue to soften as the payment of Government Taxes
on Automobile purchases nullify expected profits for investors on resale.
08-04-2018, 08:41 PM
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If I understand you correctly, the smart money now shows GT4s with a strong BUY recommendation.
Makes sense. The GT3 is the flavor of the month and while the spotlight is off the GT4, current pricing has strong value.
Just wait until the next iteration GT4.2 and the possibility it does not get the 9k rpm engine, then these could soar. We are seeing that the GT3 is now its own product line, which is a valid reason not to include the next GT4 in that engjne group -esp at $88k MSRP
In any case, the GT4 is ending up on Top Ten driver lists
Makes sense. The GT3 is the flavor of the month and while the spotlight is off the GT4, current pricing has strong value.
Just wait until the next iteration GT4.2 and the possibility it does not get the 9k rpm engine, then these could soar. We are seeing that the GT3 is now its own product line, which is a valid reason not to include the next GT4 in that engjne group -esp at $88k MSRP
In any case, the GT4 is ending up on Top Ten driver lists
08-05-2018, 02:13 AM
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GT4 will get hammered when the new ones come out, just like GT3 and GT3 RS got hammered when 991.2 versions came out. Anyone “investing” in GT cars is nuts.
08-05-2018, 06:41 AM
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If I understand you correctly, the smart money now shows GT4s with a strong BUY recommendation
Just wait until the next iteration GT4.2 and the possibility it does not get the 9k rpm engine, then these could soar. We are seeing that the GT3 is now its own product line, which is a valid reason not to include the next GT4 in that engjne group -esp at $88k MSRP
Just wait until the next iteration GT4.2 and the possibility it does not get the 9k rpm engine, then these could soar. We are seeing that the GT3 is now its own product line, which is a valid reason not to include the next GT4 in that engjne group -esp at $88k MSRP
08-05-2018, 10:27 AM
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Guy can buy 2 GT3's... one manual and one PDK... then decide he likes the manual, so he'll sell the PDK over MSRP. Wow something is really wacky in the GT market. Don't think that's sustainable....surely eventually prices will drop like they do for all cars. Wonder if people are just buying GT3s to hold then sell for a profit... so much for 'made to be driven' Porsche motto.
08-05-2018, 10:45 AM
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