Annoying about the particle filter but still, better the damned filter than no car at all or such a stupidly short production window such that almost no one can get the car.

Arethe rumours about the factory at Stuttgart shutdown from May with no petrol cars being produced for a few months actually true btw? I find that impossible to believe personally that Porsche would be willing to effectively scrap 3 months or so of 911 production. While they are a SUV company these days, the 30+k 911s sold per annum don't exactly hurt the bottom line at all especially at their profit margins..

 

Knowing that I have a 991.2 GT3RS "promised" in writing by my GM, it is going to be so awesome to stare at the beast in the garage and dreaming to drive it lol...

 

Me too, I get first dibs on all GT cars at my dealer, so I am hoping that enough are produced to go to non-918 folks. The big question will be what to trade in: my 991.1 RS which I absolutely love (by far my favorite that I have owned), or my 991.2 GT3 manual? funny, my wife asked me the other day if I really liked my new 991.2 GT3 because I never talk about it; she is quite smart- I haven't really come to love it yet. Need some driving time I think.

 

 

 

This is such fallacy and you got sold by AP. When they wanted to sell people on PDK on the .1 they claimed that the PDK was essential for the engine. What did you want them to say??? They said what they had to in order to sell the Product. Now- with the .2- you do not hear that same language coming out of Porsche any more. The Manual in the .2 is incredible. They certainly made it for this engine. It is quick, precise an the Rev-matching is programmed perfectly. Also - you do not even have to let off the gas when changing gears on the Manual. I am betting that the times between the Manual and PDK are much closer than you think

 

Jimmy, depending on the skill of the MT driver, I agree times could be close. But don't you find it strange that all the elite performance car manufacturers do not offer MT? If MT maximized performance, they would continue to offer MT. It would be cheaper to manufacture and cut down on R&D. BY not doing so, they are saying "MT has its place....back in history."

 

There is no human being born as of yet who can shift faster than a PDK. You are absolutely correct that you'll not see in professional racing a manual transmission at least in this decade. The six speed manual transmission created by Porsche on the 911R is so delicious, by far the best, that it was handed down to the 991.2 GT3 and GT3 touring models, and who knows maybe some more Porsche models down the road. The manual transmission is all about fun and driver engagement. If milliseconds and seconds are important to you and you track a lot, then PDK is the only way to go. This is not to say you can't have fun with PDK as a daily driver, for I know the PDK on my 991 GT3RS is lightning quick.

Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1

 

I agree Porsche was really marketeering the pdk in the 991.1 GT3 but look what sales have done and look how good the car was at the same time. I call that a win-win. I believe they were being cheap at the time in not fully developing and certifying both cars but I think they didn't believe there was a market demand to justify the cost. But that was 5 years ago now and a lot has changed. The increased demand for more "puristic" driving and less concern with ultimate track and 0-60 times is perfect for manual car demand. I find it funny that this almost seems like it was planned. Build limited R with manual, then comes huge demand for manual and sell said manual as no cost option (win-win).

Right now for NA the build split is almost up to 54% manual. Did anyone at Porsche expect that even with the pent-up demand?

I'll take a pdk RS and a manual GT3 touring please.

 

Demand was always there.

Rule #1: Know your customer. Combination of Porsche dropping the ball and trying to get out cheap by only building PDK. Positive is they did something about it as opposed to a lot of other car companies that just put their head in the sand. Kudos to them.

 

I don't think Porsche was cheap when they moved away from manual transmissions, I think they decided to put all their money and resources in the development of the PDK which is still the best DCT on the market.

This happened at a time in which all manufacturers were shying away from MT.

They then realized that there is still a strong demand for MT but rather than following a theoretical approach they released a limited edition manual car, the 911R. This gave them the real world demand.

Porsche knew exactly what they were doing with the R.

 

Yep ^ Room for both from here on out. They just need to decide on which cars get what. I have had both. Love them both equally for different reasons. I can go either way.

 

 

They should fire some sleeping managers time by time

it would wake up the others