Lapis

Dundon's Smokies GT presentation was educational, yes. I appreciated it at the time. But it left me (and others I presume) with an exaggerated sense of doom and gloom that was, ultimately a sales pitch for Dundon's engine monitoring solution, which we now know is ultimately unwarranted, at least for RS's and R's.

I don't think Jamie was misrepresenting his view of the facts, and I think he sincerely believed everything he said. It's just that ultimately, they assumed the only cause of the premature wear was due to the design/architecture and hadn't considered the possibility of a flaw in the manufacture and metallurgy of SOME the finger followers themselves. I remember him saying that DLC coated is better but that it's not a solution and the DLC coating will prematurely wear too because of a fundamental design flaw of the top end of the engine.

As engineers, I think they have a duty to explore all reasonably plausible causes before jumping tonconclusion such as they did, conclusions that not only have the effect of allowing them to promote a product, but more worrying, conclusions that they broadcast to the world that likely contributed to the drop in market values 991.1 GT3's and the actions of some 991.1 GT3 owners who may have sold prematurely to unload what they were lead to believe was an unfixable engine, and those who sold lost money because of it.

CDinSing

Well said Dave and Sean. Jamie and Dundon were trying to help us find a solution when we weren't sure anyone else would.

STG

I think drop in market values are a natural occurrence with new models coming out. I don't believe you'll see values of .1 GT3's shoot up. It's not like they've taken a huge nose dive as is.

cars.com has 141 for sale. Check back in a month and see how that's changed. It's at an all-time high now.

ipse dixit

I think at a time like this, it is better just to focus on and accentuate (at least publicly) the positive.

And to avoid, if possible, throwing salt at those who are, to put it diplomatically, a bit wounded.

BryanCO

Macca and COG fellas - great efforts and results. This is huge.

Thanks also to to Porsche for solving the issue and backing the product.

fabe32

Wow, amazing outcome.
Big thanks to COG, Porsche and Macca.

STG

So Dundon was making an effort to figure this out. Why diss them? Who else was other than Porsche and they weren't talking until ....

Porsche probably had ZERO interest in offering an extended warranty until an action group (COG) was formed and made them act.

The documented Macca and Dundon homework played a big part in helping publicize the issue. Have to give credit where it's due.

sgroer

Positive vibes! It was the mantra of the COG from day one!

robmypro

Agree 100%! Jamie and Dundon are good, super talented people, so let's not turn this into a negative for those guys. They have been huge supporters here. I see a place for their solution on the performance side. Carmen got RS cams put into his GT3, and he said it woke the car right up. So a performance solution with improved followers seems strong to me, especially given Dundon's reputation for high quality work.

Lapis

sorry for being the least bit negative. I'm happy with the result today, and thanks to Dundon for their efforts to understand this and their contributions to the concerned owners group that achieved the happy result today.

sgroer

Yep - without Dundon and Macca Who knows where we'd be right now.

robmypro

I bet the guys from Porsche were surprised to see the title slide of our presentation.

Driving Passion & Exhilaration? Hey Frank, are we in the right conference room?

robmypro

+1000!

STG

I know where you'd be, still concerned!!

BTW. Thanks for stepping up and representing the group.

TRAKCAR

This!!