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I agree with both of you, handdoc and Archimedes. M5 Comp is a great car, and I wish I had an Autobahn here to enjoy the car in the way it should be enjoyed. Comfort and safety in high speeds. Also, my decision to sell it was influenced that I have another car at home that gives me a similar driving experience- reliability, space, luxury and comfort (Bentayga with Akrapovic exhaust), so a bit much of the same. Call me crazy but I just got a Mini GP3 that I plan to DD. We'll see, but so far very cool car - flawed, but cool.
ok i couldn't resist...if we are talking the M brand, which ive been fond of for over 20 years (and currently own 3 M cars all pictured now in this thread), i will beg to differ on what the all time best are...i believe my 06 ZCP ILB car above is one of the greatest car/motor combos BMW has made...that car has the M branded alcantara, and just shy of 50k miles...it does everything right
I agree with both of you, handdoc and Archimedes. M5 Comp is a great car, and I wish I had an Autobahn here to enjoy the car in the way it should be enjoyed. Comfort and safety in high speeds. Also, my decision to sell it was influenced that I have another car at home that gives me a similar driving experience- reliability, space, luxury and comfort (Bentayga with Akrapovic exhaust), so a bit much of the same. Call me crazy but I just got a Mini GP3 that I plan to DD. We'll see, but so far very cool car - flawed, but cool.
I also got the Mini GP3 (put 1,000 miles on it already). It's a riot. I tracked it at MSR Houston last week and it was a blast/surprising grip and exit speed on corners (hadn't really been out to track since pandemic started and took my son). I appreciate the choice the engineers made to just make something ridiculous for the street (2,800 pds, 305hp, track suspension, one driver setting - just hit the GP switch and go). I don't mind no manual (have one in 911) and transmission works with engine fine. So much character. Very flawed. The torque steer - whoa.
All M3 CS / M4 CS were DCT-only. No manuals were ever offered, neither in the US nor ROW.
The M2 CS on the other hand gives you a transmission choice.
Great stable! ^^^ And I hear you - and largely agree. I've been chipping away at owning each gen of the M3, some I have doubled down on, others I will completely skip (certainly the current G80, and probably the E36 unless I land a Euro BRG M3 GT version, as the LTW is IMO gone beyond the realm of reasonable for what it is - the US-only non-M engine kills it for me). I jumped on the F80 train largely because I got one of the 42 6-spd 30 Yahre editions, and have a Macao Blue E30 M3 which this car pays tribute to, so I felt it was a combo that had to be paired, otherwise likely would have skipped the platform. Chris Harris named it the best M3 ever, which raises a lot of eye brows for sure, but I have come to appreciate it for what it is, probably more so after the reveal of the new G80.
Similar to you, I'd put the E46 and E9x up there. Ended up getting a B7 RS4 (which I still have) during the E9x lifecycle which in many ways is the last of its era/kind (high strung NA V-8, manual, AWD) and they too have come to be appreciated over time (CJ might chime in as he has accumulated a few, and is bidding on one on BAT as I type LOL). On the long-dated dream list are the E46 M3 CSL and M3 GTS / CRT, but by the time they are federalizable values would likely have become stratospheric.
Similarly to you, I did let go of my E39 M5 - which I regret, and looking to get back in the game. Likely going to look for a well kept Dinan S2, but there are pretty rare, and command (justifiably) a good penny!
Enjoy those 2 beauties ^^^ in good health! If it ever comes time to part with the LR, you know who to PM
ok i couldn't resist...if we are talking the M brand, which ive been fond of for over 20 years (and currently own 3 M cars all pictured now in this thread), i will beg to differ on what the all time best are...i believe my 06 ZCP ILB car above is one of the greatest car/motor combos BMW has made...that car has the M branded alcantara, and just shy of 50k miles...it does everything right
the best ever to me is my 13 LRP M3...only 200, this is 1 of 50 with the 6 speed manual...stripper car, only satellite radio and heated seats as options, 6k miles...one of my top 5 cars ever to drive, the last great NA motor M will ever make...a car that i just adore, and frankly has no comparison, i guess thats why they are so coveted
my 2020 M5 Comp is a great DD, love it very much, brutal power, but for a driver's car, the above 2 are the best...only one missing is my E39 M5...had one, let it go, still looking for the right replacement...may not find it w/ current pricing on them (and having bought too many cars recently!)
while the M2 and its variants are great, M1 as well, they dont compare to the 2 M cars shown above, but thats my humble opinion having owned most of them
none of the current M2/3/4 cars compare to these IMO having driven them, owned them, and traded them
i love your new car above, dont get me wrong, but just felt i'd share my 2 cents and over 20 years of M cars, and the only 2 that have stayed
Nice LRP and greetings from a fellow owner but only 6k miles in 7 years? You're making me feel better about only having driven 3k miles in my 2.5 years of ownership.
Here is a picture from the day it left EAG...at 27.5k miles, just over 31k now, DCT/Fully loaded/Cloth seats. I got the obligatory RBs done (BE bearings/ARP bolts) and slapped an Eventuri CF plenum box on the motor...now it roars like a lion, highly recommended.
Nice LRP and greetings from a fellow owner but only 6k miles in 7 years? You're making me feel better about only having driven 3k miles in my 2.5 years of ownership.
Here is a picture from the day it left EAG...at 27.5k miles, just over 31k now, DCT/Fully loaded/Cloth seats. I got the obligatory RBs done (BE bearings/ARP bolts) and slapped an Eventuri CF plenum box on the motor...now it roars like a lion, highly recommended.
nice LRP and congrats...too bad you had to open your wallet to EAG...
The RS6 Avant and the M2CS seems to be a pretty consistent pick among this crowd! I was skeptical and the price is too high for what it is but the M3CS was such a perfect car and noticeable improvement over the M3 Comp that I had to try this. Got it about 2 months ago and love it. For those M3 drivers out there, this is it. The is the best M car they've made since the E30 M3..is it overpriced yes...is it what an M car should be..yes..
I think there are still a decent amount around for MSRP if you are looking, and with 6 Spd manuals too
ok i couldn't resist...if we are talking the M brand, which ive been fond of for over 20 years (and currently own 3 M cars all pictured now in this thread), i will beg to differ on what the all time best are...i believe my 06 ZCP ILB car above is one of the greatest car/motor combos BMW has made...that car has the M branded alcantara, and just shy of 50k miles...it does everything right
the best ever to me is my 13 LRP M3...only 200, this is 1 of 50 with the 6 speed manual...stripper car, only satellite radio and heated seats as options, 6k miles...one of my top 5 cars ever to drive, the last great NA motor M will ever make...a car that i just adore, and frankly has no comparison, i guess thats why they are so coveted
my 2020 M5 Comp is a great DD, love it very much, brutal power, but for a driver's car, the above 2 are the best...only one missing is my E39 M5...had one, let it go, still looking for the right replacement...may not find it w/ current pricing on them (and having bought too many cars recently!)
while the M2 and its variants are great, M1 as well, they dont compare to the 2 M cars shown above, but thats my humble opinion having owned most of them
none of the current M2/3/4 cars compare to these IMO having driven them, owned them, and traded them
i love your new car above, dont get me wrong, but just felt i'd share my 2 cents and over 20 years of M cars, and the only 2 that have stayed
I miss my E46 M3 every so often. If the current owner would ever sell it, I'd seriously consider buying it back.
I miss my E46 M3 every so often. If the current owner would ever sell it, I'd seriously consider buying it back.
thats a very common feeling...thats why the above 2 will stay...i only drove each once this past year, but seeing them every day in the flesh is enough!
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