McLaren Success
03-24-2019, 02:07 PM
#3421
Nordschleife Master
You should just stop with these types of postings...
All (37)AIR BAGS (3)BACK OVER PREVENTION (2)ELECTRICAL SYSTEM (5)ENGINE (2)ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING (4)EQUIPMENT (7)EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE (1)FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE (3)POWER TRAIN (1)SERVICE BRAKES (1)SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC (1)STRUCTURE (5)SUSPENSION (1)VISIBILITY (3)WHEELS (5)
37 Manufacturer Communications for 2018 PORSCHE 911 GT3
FILTER MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS BY AFFECTED COMPONENTSAll (37)AIR BAGS (3)BACK OVER PREVENTION (2)ELECTRICAL SYSTEM (5)ENGINE (2)ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING (4)EQUIPMENT (7)EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE (1)FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE (3)POWER TRAIN (1)SERVICE BRAKES (1)SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC (1)STRUCTURE (5)SUSPENSION (1)VISIBILITY (3)WHEELS (5)
03-24-2019, 02:15 PM
#3422
You want me to conclude his saga was a lye? Maybe Murray’s saga was fiction too? I doubt either is fictional. If you have evidence to the contrary let’s hear it.
To to the contrary I love Macs. I would love to see their products sell and compete. Competition is good for the consumer. Would love to see Mac resale values improve and stories like the one in the vid fade away and become the perceived exception. Macs handling of that situation was not a step the right direction imho.
the other conclusion is that you think Mclaren reliability sucks.
anything else to add? If not, just drop it and move on. We get your concerns.
03-24-2019, 02:21 PM
#3423
Nordschleife Master
no I want you to conclude that he had problems with his car and the problems were rectified by Mclaren. That’s all we know. We don’t know what happened beyond that.
the other conclusion is that you think Mclaren reliability sucks.
anything else to add? If not, just drop it and move on. We get your concerns.
But yes ive made my concerns clear. I think anyway.
03-24-2019, 02:28 PM
#3424
I don't even know why you post these types of things... You are not a buyer so why do you even care or even post these things. People who own $300K + cars own multiple cars and marques. They just don't sit on car forums and battle it out with people who have agendas. The perceptions people have fit an already pre-conceived narrative that they want to keep posting about.
The manufacture communications is usually one part and then it says which car is affected by that part.
Here is Ferrari recall info posted a month ago.
Fuel Vapor Separator may Crack and Leak Fuel A fuel leak in the presence of an ignition source may increase the risk of fire.
NHTSA Campaign Number: 19V090000
Manufacturer Ferrari North America, Inc.
Components FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
Potential Number of Units Affected 2,150
NHTSA Campaign Number: 19V090000
Manufacturer Ferrari North America, Inc.
Components FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
Potential Number of Units Affected 2,150
Summary
Ferrari North America, Inc. (Ferrari) is recalling certain 2017 LaFerrari Aperta, 2018-2019 488 GTB, GTC4Lusso T, GTC4Lusso, 488 Spider, 812 Superfast, and 2019 488 Pista vehicles. The fuel vapor separator may crack and allow fuel to leak.
Remedy
Ferrari will notify owners, and dealers will replace the fuel vapor separator, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin April 14, 2019. Owners may contact Ferrari customer service at 1-201-816-2668. Ferrari's number for this recall is 69.
Notes
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.
Request Research (Services fees apply)Ferrari North America, Inc. (Ferrari) is recalling certain 2017 LaFerrari Aperta, 2018-2019 488 GTB, GTC4Lusso T, GTC4Lusso, 488 Spider, 812 Superfast, and 2019 488 Pista vehicles. The fuel vapor separator may crack and allow fuel to leak.
Remedy
Ferrari will notify owners, and dealers will replace the fuel vapor separator, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin April 14, 2019. Owners may contact Ferrari customer service at 1-201-816-2668. Ferrari's number for this recall is 69.
Notes
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.
03-24-2019, 02:47 PM
#3425
03-24-2019, 03:24 PM
#3426
Rennlist Member
Some people get really butthurt over any comment about McLaren and build quality or reliability concerns. It doesn't change anything though. The facts are that the perception is that McLaren has some growing issues. Perception is everything and all of these stories feed that perception. I'll be a Mac buyer someday, but there are a few things keeping me on the fence. The number one being that everyone I know that has owned a Mac has had problems with it. And while McLaren may eventually resolve the issue, it's not without some difficulty and delay. I'm all for McLaren success and I hope they continue to improve. Like many have said, the performance of the cars is next level when they are working right.
03-24-2019, 03:47 PM
#3427
Some people get really butthurt over any comment about McLaren and build quality or reliability concerns. It doesn't change anything though. The facts are that the perception is that McLaren has some growing issues. Perception is everything and all of these stories feed that perception. I'll be a Mac buyer someday, but there are a few things keeping me on the fence. The number one being that everyone I know that has owned a Mac has had problems with it. And while McLaren may eventually resolve the issue, it's not without some difficulty and delay. I'm all for McLaren success and I hope they continue to improve. Like many have said, the performance of the cars is next level when they are working right.
Keyboard warriors: I know someone who knows someone:
Semi-facts: McLaren has produced over 17,000 cars with I'd say on average those cars have had maybe two owners. That's probably about 30K owners. How many of them do you know? and how many of those McLaren owners have bought another car after their first one?
Public data (NHTSA.gov) shows that Porsche is the least reliable and the most recalls/manufacture communications amongst lambo/Ferrari/McLaren.
2,150 Ferrari owners are currently at risk of a fire in their cars...
Porsche 918 (Halo car of Porsche) owners have had six recalls...[h1=left]6 Recallsfor 2015 PORSCHE 918 SPYDER[/h1]
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All (6)ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING (1)SEAT BELTS (1)SUSPENSION (4)
03-24-2019, 04:03 PM
#3428
Nordschleife Master
Once again. People who own $300K plus cars usually own multiple marques.
Keyboard warriors: I know someone who knows someone:
Semi-facts: McLaren has produced over 17,000 cars with I'd say on average those cars have had maybe two owners. That's probably about 30K owners. How many of them do you know? and how many of those McLaren owners have bought another car after their first one?
Public data (NHTSA.gov) shows that Porsche is the least reliable and the most recalls/manufacture communications amongst lambo/Ferrari/McLaren.
2,150 Ferrari owners are currently at risk of a fire in their cars...
Porsche 918 (Halo car of Porsche) owners have had six recalls...
Keyboard warriors: I know someone who knows someone:
Semi-facts: McLaren has produced over 17,000 cars with I'd say on average those cars have had maybe two owners. That's probably about 30K owners. How many of them do you know? and how many of those McLaren owners have bought another car after their first one?
Public data (NHTSA.gov) shows that Porsche is the least reliable and the most recalls/manufacture communications amongst lambo/Ferrari/McLaren.
2,150 Ferrari owners are currently at risk of a fire in their cars...
Porsche 918 (Halo car of Porsche) owners have had six recalls...
6 Recallsfor 2015 PORSCHE 918 SPYDER
FILTER Recalls BY AFFECTED COMPONENTS
All (6)ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING (1)SEAT BELTS (1)SUSPENSION (4)
Stress Corrosion Cracking of Control Arm Shafts If the control arm connecting shafts crack, affecting vehicle handling, it can increase the risk of a crash.Front Lower Control Arms may Crack A cracked lower control arm may affect vehicle handling, increasing the risk of a crash.Seat Belt Mounting Screws may Fail In the event of a crash, the incorrect bolts may not keep the seat belts properly anchored to the car, increasing the risk of injury to the seat occupants.Wiring Harness for Cooling Fan may Short If the harness contacts the insulation plate, the harness may chafe and result in an electrical short which could increase the risk of a fire.Front Lower Control Arms may Fracture The fracture of a lower control arm while the vehicle is being drivem increases the risk of a crash.
I have no “agenda”. Pointing to reality. How do you know I’m not a “buyer” if things were different as to Mac? You don’t.
I really like the 600LT. Very simply stories like the video we are talking about have me balking.
Rangers comments are spot on imho. It would be great if Mac acquired the reputation for reliability, residual value and quality of Porsches. This way we could tell Porsche dealers to stuff it when they play there games and just stroll next door to McClaren and drive a car off the lot at msrp and trade back without losing your stones and pillar at the same time.
Yup. That would be nice.
03-24-2019, 04:24 PM
#3430
I don't really know if you are for real or just taking a ****.
03-24-2019, 04:50 PM
#3431
03-24-2019, 06:17 PM
#3432
Rennlist Member
Took my LT out today yet again. Flat out so beyond any fun I've had with any recent GT car, I affirmatively don't need another new one ever again. I'm still flat out shocked the thing is even road legal, it,s that ballistically crazy. Holy F. Never smiled as much in a modern car in my life. As far as I'm concerned about, best new age automotive purchase EVER, which in the end is all that really matters haha.
03-24-2019, 06:45 PM
#3433
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Took my LT out today yet again. Flat out so beyond any fun I've had with any recent GT car, I affirmatively don't need another new one ever again. I'm still flat out shocked the thing is even road legal, it,s that ballistically crazy. Holy F. Never smiled as much in a modern car in my life. As far as I'm concerned about, best new age automotive purchase EVER, which in the end is all that really matters haha.
03-24-2019, 07:24 PM
#3434
And everyone I know who owns a McLaren (I know about a dozen) loves it and has not had any, repeat any, serious issues. To emphasize, I do not know a single person in my McLaren group that is unsatisfied with the car, in fact quite the opposite.
03-24-2019, 07:31 PM
#3435
A very serious question; If a manufacture says that we are going to give an additional $5,000 off your new car purchase but there will be no warranty... who/if anyone is going to go for that deal with any car manufacture?