some 991.2 tidbits
07-10-2015, 12:32 PM
#46
well that is encouraging. Will cars built in the yr of 2016 be called MY 2016 or...?
07-10-2015, 12:54 PM
#47
I would suspect the .2 cars would be MY2017. If I was betting, I would lean more towards a 2017 allocation release and having the cars show up as MY2018.
Last edited by Todd B; 07-10-2015 at 03:16 PM.
07-10-2015, 12:55 PM
#48
After face lift production 'change over' commences at Zuffenhausen later this calendar year 2015 and into 2016, those .2 991 'normal' models will be known as MY2017 (carrera, S, Targa, etc). But don't expect any gt3 RS to be in that category. PAG has not revealed plans for MY2017 in any of these other variants (gt3, gt3 RS, gt4, spyder). There is nothing yet that I have seen which I would characterize as 'encouraging'....but we remain always 'hopeful'.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
07-10-2015, 02:09 PM
#50
So far the only public news has been talk of a 911 Hybrid and a GT2 RS. Porsche hit their "Strategy 2018" sales target last year so things are being rethought and brought forward.
07-10-2015, 02:50 PM
#51
Rennlist Member
I thought the FIA regs for the GT3 class was more about horsepower (i.e. between 500-600 bhp), as well as other things like dry weight, and not necessarily the type or layout of the engine.
I could be wrong (and probably am) but wasn't Nissan running the GT-R Nismo GT3 that was spec'd with the VR38DETT, a twin-turbocharged V6 engine, putting out 600 hp?
I could be wrong (and probably am) but wasn't Nissan running the GT-R Nismo GT3 that was spec'd with the VR38DETT, a twin-turbocharged V6 engine, putting out 600 hp?
07-10-2015, 03:39 PM
#52
Drifting
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Belmont Shore in Long Beach CA
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
So are they talking Single Turbos with 3.0L? There would still be tremendous room for power improvement though I imagine most would be in smoothing out and opening up airflow internally since the ecu's are so difficult to crack now. That and faster revving engine's and a lighter rear end that's if all this hearsay is true. But I can't imagine Porsche making such a radical change just because of China. Maybe CAFE requirement's too - but this is all speculation. I just can't imagine su h a higher pitch coming from a 911S! Don't mind 430BHP...
07-10-2015, 03:43 PM
#53
Not necessarily, the 991 gt3, gt3 RS, Cayman gt4 and 981 Spyder that we know might be produced in early 2016 will be .1 or pre-face lift. They will be MY2016.
After face lift production 'change over' commences at Zuffenhausen later this calendar year 2015 and into 2016, those .2 991 'normal' models will be known as MY2017 (carrera, S, Targa, etc). But don't expect any gt3 RS to be in that category. PAG has not revealed plans for MY2017 in any of these other variants (gt3, gt3 RS, gt4, spyder). There is nothing yet that I have seen which I would characterize as 'encouraging'....but we remain always 'hopeful'.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
After face lift production 'change over' commences at Zuffenhausen later this calendar year 2015 and into 2016, those .2 991 'normal' models will be known as MY2017 (carrera, S, Targa, etc). But don't expect any gt3 RS to be in that category. PAG has not revealed plans for MY2017 in any of these other variants (gt3, gt3 RS, gt4, spyder). There is nothing yet that I have seen which I would characterize as 'encouraging'....but we remain always 'hopeful'.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
07-10-2015, 04:21 PM
#55
07-10-2015, 06:49 PM
#56
Rennlist Member
I believe we will see 991.2 GT3 at Geneva march 2016 for MY2017 production followed the next year by RS in Geneva with MY2018 production. Back to the "normal" sequence. I think the 991 GT3 engine debacle upset this generations launch sequence.
07-10-2015, 07:18 PM
#57
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
So are they talking Single Turbos with 3.0L? There would still be tremendous room for power improvement though I imagine most would be in smoothing out and opening up airflow internally since the ecu's are so difficult to crack now. That and faster revving engine's and a lighter rear end that's if all this hearsay is true. But I can't imagine Porsche making such a radical change just because of China. Maybe CAFE requirement's too - but this is all speculation. I just can't imagine su h a higher pitch coming from a 911S! Don't mind 430BHP...
China is Porsches 2nd largest market. Audi, BMW and others even make China specific versions of their mainstream cars. For example, the A4, A6 and 3er BMW all have significantly longer wheels bases with stretched doors. That's how important the China market is to the manufacturers.
07-10-2015, 09:56 PM
#59
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
That's what I said up-above. Not conjecture.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/882477-some-991-2-tidbits-3.html#post12421501
07-10-2015, 09:58 PM
#60
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
That may be changing a little: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...id-stocks-rout
The über rich in China (like Jack Ma's personal handler) tool around in Bugattis, Lambos and Ferraris.
Oh, and Jack Ma? Helicopter.
#BecauseTrafficSucks