GT car / Salesman - Shiraaz Sookralli - Champion Porsche's VP of Marketing
09-18-2018, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
https://www.google.com/amp/www.sun-s...story,amp.html
Accident was not in a moving boat.
Can't say a correlation between the two at this point.
Accident was not in a moving boat.
Can't say a correlation between the two at this point.
Tragic regardless of circumstances.
09-18-2018, 12:36 PM
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Reporter wants to speak with Sookralli victim
All: I'm Ron Huritbise and I cover business for the South Florida Sun Sentinel. a daily newspaper covering the region that includes Champion Porsche. Although this story has been in the automotive media for some time, it has not yet been reported generally. I was hoping one of the buyers who gave money to Shiraaz Sookralli might be willing to tell me about your experience, and any other updates you might have heard about the case. I can be reached at rhurtibise@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4071. If my email or phone number is suppressed when I post this message, please contact me through the forum's PM function. Thanks.
09-18-2018, 12:50 PM
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If legally allowed, I still think that PCNA should prohibit dealers from selling the new cars for above MSRP. That would reduce the tendency towards bubbles and ADMs in the pricing. Maybe the whole process needs more transparency also, but I think PAG and PCNA are motivated to keep us in the dark in order to maintain the impression of scarcity, which boosts sales, profits, and the reputation of the brand. "Better get in line to get your GT3/RS/GT4 now, because they're not making more, these cars are super awesome, and they're going to maintain or appreciate in value" … until they make more.
09-18-2018, 12:57 PM
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If legally allowed, I still think that PCNA should prohibit dealers from selling the new cars for above MSRP. That would reduce the tendency towards bubbles and ADMs in the pricing. Maybe the whole process needs more transparency also, but I think PAG and PCNA are motivated to keep us in the dark in order to maintain the impression of scarcity, which boosts sales, profits, and the reputation of the brand. "Better get in line to get your GT3/RS/GT4 now, because they're not making more, these cars are super awesome, and they're going to maintain or appreciate in value" … until they make more.
09-18-2018, 01:03 PM
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If legally allowed, I still think that PCNA should prohibit dealers from selling the new cars for above MSRP. That would reduce the tendency towards bubbles and ADMs in the pricing. Maybe the whole process needs more transparency also, but I think PAG and PCNA are motivated to keep us in the dark in order to maintain the impression of scarcity, which boosts sales, profits, and the reputation of the brand. "Better get in line to get your GT3/RS/GT4 now, because they're not making more, these cars are super awesome, and they're going to maintain or appreciate in value" … until they make more.
I don't even know what it is to buy a car with MSRP. It would have to be; you've never bought a car from the dealer/marquee or any group of companies owned by the dealer and then walked in and bought one at MSRP without financing.
Any other transactions you may have done in the past (buying other cars, leasing, trade-ins, buying parts, etc.) and getting an in demand car at MSRP is really not MSRP at all.
09-18-2018, 01:25 PM
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Another alternative, as already suggested, is to prohibit people from reselling cars for some period of time, but that has its own issues.
09-18-2018, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by shapiroeric
Shocking....a thread that has turned into an ADM debate.....how quickly people forget what the "S" stands for in MSRP and the basics of supply and demand 
+1000
BUT, I do believe there are things PCNA could do to control the situation better than it does--by a mile.
09-18-2018, 01:26 PM
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Also there is enough supply to meet demand, doesn't take that much to realize it.
09-18-2018, 01:27 PM
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Double edged sword if you can buy under, and the same for over. Swings both ways it’s all supply. The machine is making as many cars as they can all can’t have a trophy like little league.
09-18-2018, 01:27 PM
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people aren't forgetting
if you think supply and demand isn't being manipulated here for dealer/corporate benefit, I guess you can put your head back in the sand.
if you think supply and demand isn't being manipulated here for dealer/corporate benefit, I guess you can put your head back in the sand.
09-18-2018, 01:31 PM
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09-18-2018, 01:36 PM
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The second part is the part that needs to be curbed, and then supply will be adequate. The second part causes a feedback loop where demand and prices keep going up because demand and prices are going up. Read about the tulip mania: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
09-18-2018, 01:50 PM
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So now this a Capitalism of GT cars vs. Socialism of GT cars debate???
People...Cars are for sale. What the dealer, owners, flipers, etc. choose to do with them is why America is so great (MAGA / KAGA)!!
"PROFIT" It's NOT a dirty word!! (coming from someone that probably never be able to afford one due to this supply / demand game. But, I begrudge nobody for trying to turn a profit.
People...Cars are for sale. What the dealer, owners, flipers, etc. choose to do with them is why America is so great (MAGA / KAGA)!!
"PROFIT" It's NOT a dirty word!! (coming from someone that probably never be able to afford one due to this supply / demand game. But, I begrudge nobody for trying to turn a profit.
09-18-2018, 01:52 PM
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So now this a Capitalism of GT cars vs. Socialism of GT cars debate???
People...Cars are for sale. What the dealer, owners, flipers, etc. choose to do with them is why America is so great (MAGA / KAGA)!!
"PROFIT" It's NOT a dirty word!! (coming from someone that probably never be able to afford one due to this supply / demand game. But, I begrudge nobody for trying to turn a profit.
People...Cars are for sale. What the dealer, owners, flipers, etc. choose to do with them is why America is so great (MAGA / KAGA)!!
"PROFIT" It's NOT a dirty word!! (coming from someone that probably never be able to afford one due to this supply / demand game. But, I begrudge nobody for trying to turn a profit.
Hey Shiraaz is wanted.... Martin Shkreli is in Federal prison... we're all in for capitalism, not fraud.