To Wing or Not to Wing, That is the Question.
09-23-2017, 01:56 AM
#1
Drifting
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To Wing or Not to Wing, That is the Question.
I know this topic has been discussed in several threads (I have read them all and appreciate your insight) but here is my situation:
I am vacillating on my 991.2 GT3 build on the configurator because I cannot decide on whether to go with the wing or with the Touring edition. I am currently leasing a 991.1 GTS PDK cab which I plan on buying at the end of the lease. It will remain my DD. I am single, no kids and live in So Cal. I have no plans on tracking the GT3. I enjoy spirited mountain driving and weekend road trips up and down the coast.
On the interior, I prefer leather to alcantara which feels weird to me. I have the full leather interior and 4 ways in my GTS and I love it. I have not yet sat in LWBs but I would almost definitely get them if I got the wing but I would lean toward 4 ways if I got the Touring (so I could fold the seats forward and get golf clubs in the back). I think sofas make sense in a "Carrera-like" build and LWBs in the "race car-like" GT3. Advantage: Touring (by a whisker)
On the exterior, I think the wing looks great while the Touring looks (body-wise) just a little bit more sporty than my GTS. I saw a 991.1 GT3 on my drive home from work today and it made my heart rate go up - it looked amazing. I am also interested in getting a PTS color (if I am lucky enough to get a PTS allotment). That is not an option on the Touring. Advantage: Wing
A wildcard in the equation is the classic manual versus PDK debate. Sorry - I went there. I have every intention of going manual because I already have a PDK and it would be nice to have one of each. On the other hand, if I got a PDK GT3, I would be more likely to daily drive it as I find the PDK perfect for LA's miserable stop and go traffic. PDK is not an option in the Touring. Advantage: Wing
I know that at the end of the day, this is a very personal decision but I bet you guys and gals can provide some insight to help me see things from a different perspective. Thanks for your input!
I am vacillating on my 991.2 GT3 build on the configurator because I cannot decide on whether to go with the wing or with the Touring edition. I am currently leasing a 991.1 GTS PDK cab which I plan on buying at the end of the lease. It will remain my DD. I am single, no kids and live in So Cal. I have no plans on tracking the GT3. I enjoy spirited mountain driving and weekend road trips up and down the coast.
On the interior, I prefer leather to alcantara which feels weird to me. I have the full leather interior and 4 ways in my GTS and I love it. I have not yet sat in LWBs but I would almost definitely get them if I got the wing but I would lean toward 4 ways if I got the Touring (so I could fold the seats forward and get golf clubs in the back). I think sofas make sense in a "Carrera-like" build and LWBs in the "race car-like" GT3. Advantage: Touring (by a whisker)
On the exterior, I think the wing looks great while the Touring looks (body-wise) just a little bit more sporty than my GTS. I saw a 991.1 GT3 on my drive home from work today and it made my heart rate go up - it looked amazing. I am also interested in getting a PTS color (if I am lucky enough to get a PTS allotment). That is not an option on the Touring. Advantage: Wing
A wildcard in the equation is the classic manual versus PDK debate. Sorry - I went there. I have every intention of going manual because I already have a PDK and it would be nice to have one of each. On the other hand, if I got a PDK GT3, I would be more likely to daily drive it as I find the PDK perfect for LA's miserable stop and go traffic. PDK is not an option in the Touring. Advantage: Wing
I know that at the end of the day, this is a very personal decision but I bet you guys and gals can provide some insight to help me see things from a different perspective. Thanks for your input!
09-23-2017, 02:57 AM
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09-23-2017, 04:16 AM
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I don't understand why the wing is such a huge issue. (yes I started a parody thread today regarding it)
IMO unless you're a serious track driver who is skilled enough to benefit from the wing, the ONLY thing to consider is whether you want to row or not.
I'm not a frequent track driver, so the fastest PDK in the world could not take the place of the feeling of 3 pedals and a stick in a 500hp NA GT3. I've owned 3 911's, (all 997's) and have been without one for almost a year because I couldn't convince myself that a manual 991 GTS would satisfy me in the long run.. But the day I heard that the touring option was confirmed, I contacted my dealer and put down a deposit.
There are so many Porsche's to choose from, and although I really enjoyed my last 6 speed turbo, I always walked out of the car feeling underwhelmed. I put a 7k exhaust on it just to make it sound and feel like a Porsche should, but it didn't.
The 991.2 GT3 touring is the car I've been craving for years, and I think I speak for a LOT of others here when I say that..And it has nothing to do with the wing, and everything to do with the gearbox.
Edit: I live in L.A. too and deal with the miserable traffic every day (and horrible drivers on their phones). Which is why I drive a plush but not fancy SUV to work every day and save the fun for the early mornings on the weekends.
IMO unless you're a serious track driver who is skilled enough to benefit from the wing, the ONLY thing to consider is whether you want to row or not.
I'm not a frequent track driver, so the fastest PDK in the world could not take the place of the feeling of 3 pedals and a stick in a 500hp NA GT3. I've owned 3 911's, (all 997's) and have been without one for almost a year because I couldn't convince myself that a manual 991 GTS would satisfy me in the long run.. But the day I heard that the touring option was confirmed, I contacted my dealer and put down a deposit.
There are so many Porsche's to choose from, and although I really enjoyed my last 6 speed turbo, I always walked out of the car feeling underwhelmed. I put a 7k exhaust on it just to make it sound and feel like a Porsche should, but it didn't.
The 991.2 GT3 touring is the car I've been craving for years, and I think I speak for a LOT of others here when I say that..And it has nothing to do with the wing, and everything to do with the gearbox.
Edit: I live in L.A. too and deal with the miserable traffic every day (and horrible drivers on their phones). Which is why I drive a plush but not fancy SUV to work every day and save the fun for the early mornings on the weekends.
09-23-2017, 09:29 AM
#4
Racer
I thought the regular 991.2 GT3 had the same manual available that's in the touring. If that's the case I don't understand why the touring has everything to do with the gearbox and not anything with the wing.
09-23-2017, 10:47 AM
#6
Three Wheelin'
Real Porsche's have wings. GT 3 cars are to go fast thus PDK.
You already have a car with no wing, why have two look alike but are different underneath? Go for the Win(G)!
You already have a car with no wing, why have two look alike but are different underneath? Go for the Win(G)!
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09-23-2017, 12:39 PM
#8
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Here, I'll make it easy for you, and using your own words, too.
"On the interior, ...........Advantage: Touring (by a whisker)"
"On the exterior,.......... Advantage: Wing"
"A wildcard in the equation is the classic manual versus PDK debate. ....... Advantage: Wing"
" Thanks for your input!"
Actually it is YOUR input, just clarifying it for you. Out of the 3 factors that are important to you, the wing definitely wins 2, touring wins only one and by a whisker. Do I still need to point out the obvious?
Plus, as the others say, the wing will give a distinct visual counterpoint to your GTS.
"On the interior, ...........Advantage: Touring (by a whisker)"
"On the exterior,.......... Advantage: Wing"
"A wildcard in the equation is the classic manual versus PDK debate. ....... Advantage: Wing"
" Thanks for your input!"
Actually it is YOUR input, just clarifying it for you. Out of the 3 factors that are important to you, the wing definitely wins 2, touring wins only one and by a whisker. Do I still need to point out the obvious?
Plus, as the others say, the wing will give a distinct visual counterpoint to your GTS.
09-23-2017, 12:51 PM
#9
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a GT3 must have wing.
i drive my cars.
i need a diaper changing table, a cheese and wine cutting board, a dining table for my american grease breakfast and if the girl is pretty i need a small bed ....
a GT3 with out wing... well....that's great too.
but you need to buy two GT3 then, a real one and a wingless one.
just a mad man's opinion of course
some one good with search pls find that famous pic i posted with my kid on the board.... erh.. wing
i drive my cars.
i need a diaper changing table, a cheese and wine cutting board, a dining table for my american grease breakfast and if the girl is pretty i need a small bed ....
a GT3 with out wing... well....that's great too.
but you need to buy two GT3 then, a real one and a wingless one.
just a mad man's opinion of course
some one good with search pls find that famous pic i posted with my kid on the board.... erh.. wing
09-23-2017, 05:32 PM
#11
Drifting
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Thanks for the everyone's input. I have decided to wing it, so to speak. 
Here is my Porsche code: http://www.porsche-code.com/PJBCD3U9 - always happy to hear your thoughts on the build. I made changes to my GTS configuration on your suggestion and I am glad that I did. BTW, the configurator shows the car as viper green in 2D and Riveria/Mexico blue in 3D. It is a PTS configuration - if I get a PTS allotment, my current plan is gulf blue or perhaps light ivory. Thanks as always for your insight!
Here is my Porsche code: http://www.porsche-code.com/PJBCD3U9 - always happy to hear your thoughts on the build. I made changes to my GTS configuration on your suggestion and I am glad that I did. BTW, the configurator shows the car as viper green in 2D and Riveria/Mexico blue in 3D. It is a PTS configuration - if I get a PTS allotment, my current plan is gulf blue or perhaps light ivory. Thanks as always for your insight!
09-24-2017, 06:42 AM
#12
Thanks for the everyone's input. I have decided to wing it, so to speak. Here is my Porsche code: http://www.porsche-code.com/PJBCD3U9 - always happy to hear your thoughts on the build. I made changes to my GTS configuration on your suggestion and I am glad that I did. BTW, the configurator shows the car as viper green in 2D and Riveria/Mexico blue in 3D. It is a PTS configuration - if I get a PTS allotment, my current plan is gulf blue or perhaps light ivory. Thanks as always for your insight!
Here is my Porsche code: http://www.porsche-code.com/PJBCD3U9 - always happy to hear your thoughts on the build. I made changes to my GTS configuration on your suggestion and I am glad that I did. BTW, the configurator shows the car as viper green in 2D and Riveria/Mexico blue in 3D. It is a PTS configuration - if I get a PTS allotment, my current plan is gulf blue or perhaps light ivory. Thanks as always for your insight!Really Nice build, with all your leather options I would add the steering column and also home linking you have a gate or garage door.
09-24-2017, 09:42 AM
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09-24-2017, 06:39 PM
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