VGM911

Z356. you have some interesting information. Could you provide the exact number of your count and the number of dealers whose inventory you examined. I'd like to calculate the average number in stock per dealer. Thanks.

Z356

VGM911: Like I explained to 20C4S, I didn't take notes. But I am planning to do another search of the national Spyder inventory next month and will write it all down. In the meantime, I am hoping that someone with access to the P national database computer (available to any salesman at a local dealership) will be able to provide the forum with official updated data which might be of interest to all. z356

Sun Ra

guys,

i would appreciate help with these questions:

i am starting an order for a spyder, as my dealer swears there are no sport seat cars anywhere.

is this true? i would greatly appreciate links to all sport seat cars.

i am debating whether pccb is worth the weight loss, probably silly if i accept a/c

if i order manual trans, what does sport chrono do - performance wise - if anything? i know it helped my pdk c2s

does the sport exhaust have performance impact?

how much weight do i save w pccb? with sport seats?
give up with a/c?

thanks very much for any and all assistance, please pardon my ignorance

Polarporsche

+1 ^ Mooty is spot on, the Spyder is a great sports car and definitely my favourite to drive on the highway, it's not for everyone but if your enjoy the open road and twisty highways this car will reward the purist in you.

My only complaint is the short driving season here in the frozen north for the topless Spyder. I suffer withdrawal from Nov to May each year.

I have to ship my GT3 state side to get my $$$$ worth out of it. Good thing you guys have lots of track choices, I'm off to Miller Motorsports Park in 2 weeks.

Polarporsche

My car has the adaptive sport seats not the sport buckets, I like them very much.

I don't believe the PCCB are worth the cost.

Get the sports exhaust if you get any options, the sound is intoxicating, by far my favourite option on the car.

I have the manual trans with the sport chrono, it's a novelty, the extra performance if any will not be noticed on the street.

As always this is just my 2 cents worth, it's your money do whatever works for you.


Enjoy

Z356

Watt: The no-cost Leather Sport Seats in Spyders are all over the map (literally). The much lighter (also no cost) Alcantara/Leather Sport Buckets are also plentiful. Do some research and you will easily find them. http://www.porschedealer.com/dealer/usLocator/states/ Frankly, your dealer knows that. The information is available to him at the touch of a few computer keys. So he has another motive for telling you that.

I will let Spyder owners respond to your other concerns. But I have one question for you Watt. Are you 100% sure PCNA has allocations left for building a MY2011 Spyder at this late date? And if so, what month (date) does your dealer claim he has a confirmed Spyder production allocation for?

PolarPorsche. I met you Saturday at the POC Laguna Seca track event a few weeks ago here in Monterey. Your Guards Red gt3 looked terrific and you were really pushing it hard on the track. Your avatar photo looks like familiar ground. I liked the set up your Great White North buddies have devised in bringing your Porsches in giant transporters to US tracks south of the border. That is smart. Best of luck at Miller Motorsport. z356

mooty

that car has been there for a long time.
not sure why. it's never hit. tracked maybe 5x
everything was stock on it.
i sold it to carlsen and they wholesaled it somewhere, i guess to auto gallery.

mooty

i am starting an order for a spyder, as my dealer swears there are no sport seat cars anywhere.
===> livermore porsche in nor cal has a black car with sport seat in show room as of two weeks ago.



i am debating whether pccb is worth the weight loss, probably silly if i accept a/c
===> up to you. but i cannot feel the difference b/n pccb and iron in terms of wt loss. but the pedal does feel different. i prefer iron.


if i order manual trans, what does sport chrono do - performance wise - if anything? i know it helped my pdk c2s
===> not sure, but the thing is fugly, the wart.


does the sport exhaust have performance impact?
===> not much, but glorious sound. you NEED to order it.

how much weight do i save w pccb? with sport seats?
give up with a/c?
===> total maybe close to 100 lbs.

mooty

and you missed me!!!
i parked right behind polar's HUGE 100' trailer.

Allan Gibbs

This is what I've found interest of specials:

Walters Porsche in Riverside, CA: Has or had a red Spyder that MSRP at $67,825 and was discounted to $62,228. The advertised a lease special of $7,500 total out of pocket and $698 per month. I also though this was strange considering they have had a Boxster S lease special for $6,000 out of pocket at $598 per month. I believe MSRP on that S was $62,000. I suppose dealers are offering less of a discount on the Spyder? On a side note, I contacted Beverly Hills Porsche regarding Walter's dealer. I was told they cannot match that and I should "run not walk" for that deal. I suppose that was true because the ad was pulled from their site on Saturday so I assume that Spyder was sold -even though it's still appears on their inventory.

http://www.waltersporsche.com/

Circle Porsche in Long Beach, CA is advertising a lease special on their Spyder. It's $3,950 cap reduction and $899 per month. I figure total out pocket would be around $6,000. MSRP is $74,840.00

http://www.circleporsche.com/new-specials.html

zellamsee

My Spyder definitely continues to enthrall after a few months (and almost 5k in miles) of ownership! The car is my DD (I live in the San Francisco Bay Area) and the car is perfect for the climate here. I have the sport buckets, bi-xenons, AC, radio and a manual with the short shift. The car is just so pure, and the suspension tuning is just perfect -- firm, but not jarring, and there is almost no body roll when the car is pushed. Car + Driver calls it the best handling car in America (for under $100k) and I can understand how they came to that conclusion. The power is good . . . And while there could more (as with my RS), I am learning that more power doesn't necessarily mean more fun.

The Spyder, however, isn't for everyone. Some might find the suspension too harsh. Some may not like the fact that it takes a little work to remove (and put on) the top (2 mins for me). And given that the top has no insulation, the Spyder may not be ideal in certain climates. Then there is a bit of effort to get in and out of the buckets (doesn't bother me -- I love 'em).

Dislikes? Very few. The wheels are a PIA to wash and keep clean. The standard brakes (steels) are very good but not great. PCCBs may be worth the extra cost. And sometimes I wish the gas tank were a bit larger. But that is about it. The Spyder is a knockout and I am so glad I got it. It definitely continues to enthrall, perhaps even more so now than when I first got it. I will have the Spyder at Laguna Seca in a week and I can't wait!

20C4S

thank u 356. i do that when i'm bored. i gotta say Porsche does a good job keeping their dealers online inventory current.

i'll be more interested in east coast deals when the winter comes.

Skeptikal12

I've had the Spyder for a bit over 2 months and it still amazes me whenever I drive it.

From what I've been told there have been 44 allocations in Canada (which is actually less than GT3 RSs - from what I've been told) making the car quite rare. I don't know the stats for the US but I think these will be valued greater than normal Boxster Ss.

Regarding the PSE. I don't have it. The sound is praised however there is no performance gain. It wasn't in my interest to pay $3k CDN for a bit of extra sound.

For Sport Chrono, check out this link for the features: http://www.planet-9.com/faq.php?faq=...aq_sportchrono

- Throttle Response, Removes 'Soft' Rev limited Cut off, PSM backs off a bit, etc

Z356

Re: Mooty's "and you missed me!!! i parked right behind polar's HUGE 100' trailer". John, no wonder! Here in the States we are in a near depression and Canadians are now a bigger economic powerhouse than us, blocking views with their large transporters filled with gt3's and taking over our tracks just to rub it in! Good for them, I hear Alberta is buzzing with new economic activity. I didn't missed Savyboy and Carrera GT. They were parked (with new 997.2 gt3 RS's) together near the fence by turn #2 and we had a good visit. I missed Zellamsee, who was there as a spectator (I think). But I might catch him next week with his Spyder when he comes back down here to drive Laguna Seca. I was a member of Porsche Owners Club back in 1984/85 when I lived in Marina del Rey and have great memories of their track events back then. I even crashed (& totalled) my bright yellow '72 914 2.0 at one of their DE's - hit an early apex in turn two and never recovered at the historic Riverside International racetrack, now a shopping mall in the oddly-named Inland Empire area of Southern California. z356

Sun Ra

Thanks to all__ I have looked at 4 dealers now and have yet to find a car with sport buckets, other than the one on ebay

he claims to have on open Oct build for Nov delivery.
it was true when i got my 2011 x5d order from him, a few months a go --

but he claimed he did a nationwiide search and found no sport buckets in spyders also. thanks to all

i am thinking

sport buckets alacantara
white
sport exhaust
sport chrono
a/c
maybe pccb but so far no one claims they are worth $9k