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Old 10-30-2006 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kd4yor
C7RS Cup car, complete with cage, extinguisher and a decent contingency package. Kind of like an entry series for the "real" cup cars.
i'll be first in line.
Old 10-30-2006 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DrJupeman
I think the low end engine'd RS is a great idea. I'm not holding my breath, though.
much to my dismay, i agree with doc that this thing aint com'n anytime soon.
Old 10-30-2006 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jlr
I've been waiting for a sharper Cayman as well, and really the only thing the car needs is bit less power assist in the steering, a somewhat more aggressive suspension, less weight with really grippy cloth seats, and a LSD.

easy to resolve.
if you track the car hard for 3-4k miles, the power steering pump will give out and you will have nicely weighted steering feel. i know from experience LOL.

suspension is easy to fix. jrz, leda, moton or something to that effect.

seats can be fixed aftermarket.

less wt is easy if you want to gut the car, harder if you want it looking nice.

LSD, that's the variable. if paul guard would make one, i will buy. but i dont have enough confidence in other "proprietary" LSD just yet.

A Porsche is for everyday and that's why they've got to give us a better Cayman.
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well, if you put some agro suspension on it like i did, it's really no longer all that nice on street. everything squeaks and fwys feel like washboards.

Actually, I just got an email form Farnbacher-Loles that they will sell their LSD (60-40) for the 987 Boxster and Cayman for $2995 (old news for many on this board, I'm sure).
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nice to know. i will at least look into it.
but i wonder who in nor CA can install it. if i understood it right, you have to open the gear box to do this.


i hate to say this, but i really dont think the factory will do anything like an RS, i mean a real RS , not just a badge and charge you more $$$. however, based on what has been mentioned above, my car is getting very close other than wt and LSD. so there's hope from aftermarket...
Old 10-31-2006 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Car
Why not a Cayman RS with the 2.7? A lot of us just crave the light weight and return to simplicity. A 2.7 trimmed down to equal the lap times of a 3.4 would be one heck of a fun car, and easier on the wallet, particularly if the car came with some trick bits that racers would typically buy, e.g., GT3-style seats, better oiling system or more robust internals, fixed wing and small splitter, etc. Porsche could then make a bundle selling RS aero, seats, wheels to owners of other Caymans. Win-win?

The 2.7 RS wouldn't threaten anything, since street users would still want the 3.4 and the only the hardcore would want a stripped down car with the mere 2.7 (which would make a paltry 10 extra hp to justify the fact it would be priced between a base and an S despite the lack of content). I'd sure as heck be interested in that car. Dealers would like it b/c they'd make a better margin on it, at least initially. How 'bout the rest of you?

Perfect, perfect!!! +10h.p. and -100lbs. Manual lighweight seats, exhaust, 18" lightweight wheels.....

Or you could make your own.....for $$$$
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Heh Mooty, look up Stasis Motorsports sonoma ca, they can install the lsd.
Old 11-01-2006 | 01:58 AM
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Heh Mooty, look up Stasis Motorsports sonoma ca, they can install the lsd.
thanx.

ernie, is the LSD legal for your class? in another words, are you installing one?
Old 11-01-2006 | 05:55 AM
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dr car. my thoughts are the mag are comparing lap time from diff test. it's very hard to imagine a stock carerra to be faster than stock 951. of course i could be totally wrong, but i just think it's hard.
At the verge of being OT, I'd like to report that I found in the old Road and Track article comparing the 951 and Carrera. It's from July 1985, titled "Alpine Adventure." It compares two German-spec cars in Germany, a 220hp 944 Turbo against a 231hp Carrera. While that's a lot more hp than the US Carrera had, the 951 had 205/225 Pirelli P7's (remember those?) on 16x7 and 16x8 rims and the Carrera was on really skinny Dunlop Super Sport D4's, 185/70 and 215/60/15, on 15x6 and 15x7 rims. The 911 was faster in every dimension except braking.

"If the 944 Turbo was such a great car, why not test its mettle by pitting it against one of the established best, the 911 Carrera." I wish there were more Porsche v. Porsche comparison today! I'd like to see what Cayman v. Boxster v. 987 results would be.

"Both Porsches are quick. But the Carera is a real rocket. With a 0 to 60 time of 5.5 seconds, the 911 is 0.8 secons faster than the 944 Turbo. The difference is the same at the end of the quarter mile."

"although both Porsches stop very well indeed, the 944 Turbo is the clear winner."

"the slalom maneuvershows us that what is often percieved is not necessarily true. ... Dennis [Simanaitis] and I were convinced that the 944 Turbo offered more neutral and thus better all-around handling than the 911. But a few blasts through the pylons prove otherwise. With an average speed of 63.1 mph, the Carrera is quicker, so much so that our Engineering Editor [Simanaitis] makes a few more passes in the Turbo to prove that his initial results are correct. ... To underscore the point of the two cars' handling, ther are the skidpad results - gathered from an impromptu pylon-marked circle in a bumpy parking lot. Nontheless, they are significant in that the relative difference, 0.05g, once again favors the 911, even with its less sticky Dunlop Super Sports."

"I wind up our day at Hockenheim Ring by taking about three dozen laps around the 1.5 mile short couse with its well-known Sachs Kurve, Elf Kurve and Opel Kurve. All three are 2nd- or 3rd-gear corners ... With a best average lap time of 1 minute, 27.9 seconds, the 911 proves to be the quicker. Not suprising, considering its brilliant accleration. ... if there's a problem it is that at all times you must upshift just to avoid excessive wheelspin. In the hands of an experienced driver, the Carrera is a remarkably good-handling car. ... The non-assisted steering is heavier than the Turbo's, but it has better road feel."
" ... the 944 Turbo is smoother in almost every respect. ... But, with a best average lap time of 1:28.7, the Turbo goes slower. And it doesn't handle the way you'd expect a front-engine/rear-drive automobile to behave. It oversteers slightly under trailing throttle, something you'd expect only from a 911."

Top speed: 951 at 153, Carrera at 151.

The comment at the end of the article shows that the tables have turned since the 80's: "The 911 Carrera is a sports car, the 944 Turbo is a GT."
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dr car, thanx for the article and i stand corrected. i am surprised that 911 is fater than 944T, however. especially that the 944 had trailing throttle oversteer being more evident than 911.
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You might be thinking about the later 250hp 944s? Or just the fact that it seems fairly easy to get closer to 300hp in a 944 Turbo? I agree about TTO on the 944 more than the 911...
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I'm surprised RUF did not install the dry sump engine. Are the wet sump engines still blowing up with track use.
Old 11-03-2006 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
ernie, is the LSD legal for your class?
Nope. Only factory available options, and there is no factory LSD for the Cayman.
Old 11-03-2006 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lorne
I'm surprised RUF did not install the dry sump engine. Are the wet sump engines still blowing up with track use.
Never heard of the wet sump engines blowing up with track use.
Old 11-03-2006 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lorne
I'm surprised RUF did not install the dry sump engine. Are the wet sump engines still blowing up with track use.
I have not heard of them blowing up with track use either. However, I have seen tons of them at the track (including mine) with no apparent problems.
Old 11-04-2006 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 38D
Nope. Only factory available options, and there is no factory LSD for the Cayman.
oh well, i am fighting an uphill battle. the good thing is that i got one less thing to mod. i have more or less learn to deal with no LSD, had to suck it up and be patient out of corners watching the 911 i reeled in squat and pwr out of the turn.
Old 11-04-2006 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorne
I'm surprised RUF did not install the dry sump engine. Are the wet sump engines still blowing up with track use.
Where have you ever seen/heard of the wet sump blowing up at the track?


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