mooty

Will the Hayabusa motor fit into an Exige?
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probably will. but try an R1 motor.

i like your idea of cayman GT. i would get one as soon as they make them. i dont quite trust RUF and Farbacher's 3.8 conversion just yet ($40k. 380-400hp)

then put in a paul guard LSD. it would be quite a baby CGT, LOL.

KBS911

OK now, lets see. The Cayman is faster overall, has better track times, stops shorter than the Exige, which is a real race car(with a Toyota engine) and yet some folks have the audacity to disparage the Cayman because of of it's Japanese influence. What am I missing?

LastGT3

I think is more a matter of rarity - but the Cayman has a huge hp advantage. I would like to the times between that Atom and Cayam - even if apples and oranges.

MrSwede

LOL, I have been wondering the same thing, especially considering that this is a Porsche forum.

AW

Yes. But there is no way that engine will have enough torque for a car that heavy. Maybe a powertech v8 made of 2 Hayabusa? That would be cool, but the engine life would be like 8h

AW

mooty

ok, arnaud, you keep liz, buy a pwrteck v8... that would be very cool and i can hitch a ride : -)

with regard to cayman and elise. i feel ppl care way too much about hp and lap times. having owned the two cars, i can tell you this. you aren't gonna find a lighter car than elise that's street legal (yeah yah, i know in som places atom and radical are legal, but let's be serious for one second). the two cars feel very very different. cayman is a small car, elise is light a body suit.

as far as japanese influence is concerned. let's face it. in terms of manufacturing process, JIT etc. no one has or will ever beat the japanese. it's only a matter if the japanese want to do it or not. if they so decide to pursuit something, especially engineering subject with nano tolearance, they will have any competitors beat. yes porsche has been influenced by japanese, but i think it's for the best. now, if ferrari would listen to honda, it will be a much better car....

RAC

How about a supercharged Exige for $79k? That would be closer for an apple to apple comparison. 243 hp but no street, track only. I wonder why?

http://www.ferrariofdenver.com/inven...ail.cfm?id=598

Coochas

I wonder if it's non-street-legal because of emissions or decibels or what?

perfectlap

"We don't understand why Porsche charges so much more for the Cayman vs. the Boxster since the latter is undoubtedly more expensive to produce....Probably because they can"

mooty

boxster S: 547k base
cayman S: 589k base
difference: 4200, less than 10%, no?

MickOpalak

You have been misinformed. The Exige/Elise has never been offered in kit form, only mass produced at the Lotus factory. If it is underpowered than so is the Cayman S, since their power to weight ratios are very close (10.01 for the Cayman S and 9.31 for the Exige S). If you're suggesting that the engine is underpowered, I will remind you that the Exige engine makes 105.5 horsepower per liter, the Exige S makes 122 horsepower per liter and the Cayman S makes 87 horsepower per liter.

I don't understand by the 'not finished' comment. It will hold 5 cubic feet of luggage in its trunk, but that's not what sports cars are for in the first place. The Exige's power output, already mentioned above, has been addressed in the Exige S.

Do you have any track times for both to back up this statement? Value is subjective, so this statement can be dismissed. And trust me, the Exige can be driven to the coffee shop, although it doesn't come with any cup holders. Imagine that, cupholders in a sports car.

The Elise/Exige chassis has been in production for 10 years without any reports of chassis failure. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

As stated above, the Elise/Exige has never been offered as a kit car.

The Exige S is bettered compared to the new 911 GT3, as it is Porsche's stripped down track model. Very similiar performance although quite different prices.

As far as the C&D comparison goes, what I got out of it was that the Exige is for someone who can afford a second car as a daily driver and wants an uncompromising track car for sporting driving. The Cayman S is great for someone who wants a sporty driving experience but also needs comfort and luxury for the daily drive. The Cayman S also comes with lots of electronic baby sitters for the more inexperienced drivers.

MickOpalak

Have you seen where the Exige and the Cayman S fall on the Top Gear lap times board? 1.26.7 for the Cayman S and 1.26.4 for the Exige, in the rain. Now imagine an Exige S in the dry.

MickOpalak

The 243 hp Exige Cup cars that you are referencing are street legal in Europe, just not in America because Lotus did not get the engines certified by the Fed here. The 220 hp Exige S is not being offered in the US.

pstoppani

Z06 is raced in SCCA T1. The C5 has totally dominated that class. The C6's should be racing soon

I think the Exige and Cayman are much more alike than they are different so the comparison is quite an obvious one (there are at least two such comparisons in print already; I'm sure more are to come). There are so few cars that are true apples to apples anyway (manufacturers work very hard to make sure there are no apples to apples!).

Doug&Julie

Now that's a license plate I can relate too!