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Old 08-06-2012 | 02:35 PM
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I think it's around 35 lbs.
can't be .. 2 small can sized (the mini ones on planes) actuators can't weight 35lbs!!!
Old 08-06-2012 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jwade
I drove both yesterday. 991 is a little faster in straight line ONLY. Had no problem keeping up in 981.

I think once IPD and Softronic tuning get invloved in the 981 aftermarket segment, this may close the gap. The base engine in 991 and 981 is the same...Only detuned and suppressed.

Same old story about Porsche. They know the 981 is hot, but still has to have some justification for 991 price and pedigree.
Interestingly enough based on their posts many 991 buyers still believe that the engines in the 981 and 991 are different. So Porsche offers the same engine in both models and raises the price of the 991 vs the 997. I have no idea how well 991s are selling worldwide, but in my area the sales are very slow for a new model. I don't know if it's because of the recession or because of price. All the 991s in my area are listing for well over $100K.
Old 08-06-2012 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sfo
can't be .. 2 small can sized (the mini ones on planes) actuators can't weight 35lbs!!!
35 lbs for the PSE system, but probably about 8 lbs over the existing exhaust system weight.
Old 08-07-2012 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fast1
Interestingly enough based on their posts many 991 buyers still believe that the engines in the 981 and 991 are different. So Porsche offers the same engine in both models and raises the price of the 991 vs the 997. I have no idea how well 991s are selling worldwide, but in my area the sales are very slow for a new model. I don't know if it's because of the recession or because of price. All the 991s in my area are listing for well over $100K.
Probably a little bit of both. The 997.2 models were not as expensive unless you started going into the GTS or Turbo models.

The 991, with prefered options really takes off in price, but so does the 981. It is very easy to put 20-25k in options into these cars and to many people, thats too much in their mind. Seems like once you break that 100-110k mark, most people fall off the bandwagon.

I must be one of the insane ones that doesn't let ultimate price influence my decesion of wanting a highly optioned car, but I chose the 981 platform due to the performance level in the mid-engine chassis.

Nothing against the 991 as I just drove one hard on a Barber Motorsports track, but I like the 981 better.
Old 08-07-2012 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fast1
Interestingly enough based on their posts many 991 buyers still believe that the engines in the 981 and 991 are different. So Porsche offers the same engine in both models and raises the price of the 991 vs the 997. I have no idea how well 991s are selling worldwide, but in my area the sales are very slow for a new model. I don't know if it's because of the recession or because of price. All the 991s in my area are listing for well over $100K.
Same here. My dealer has had the same 991's on the lot for several months. I believe he still has his launch car! Both 981 launch cars are already gone. I am going from a 997 to 981 because I want a cab and couldn't see paying $40K more for a 991 that doesn't look as good in my opinion.
Old 08-07-2012 | 03:44 PM
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Sounds as though the Boxster/Cayman line is maturing into Porsche's purest sports car, which of course, it always has been. Sounds also that Porsche has pushed the boundaries of what buyers will pay for a mainstream Porsche "911"; some are biting and some, apparently, are not.

When I consider the alternatives of what $100-140k will buy, I can have a new Audi R8, new AM Vantage, lightly used Ferrari F430, or lightly used Lamborghini Gallardo. Those are all very good choices and serious competition for 991 money.
Old 08-07-2012 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by awai08
Sounds as though the Boxster/Cayman line is maturing into Porsche's purest sports car, which of course, it always has been. Sounds also that Porsche has pushed the boundaries of what buyers will pay for a mainstream Porsche "911"; some are biting and some, apparently, are not.

When I consider the alternatives of what $100-140k will buy, I can have a new Audi R8, new AM Vantage, lightly used Ferrari F430, or lightly used Lamborghini Gallardo. Those are all very good choices and serious competition for 991 money.
Agreed, for the plus $100K price range my choice would be the Vantage if looking for a GT car. If I was looking for a more pure sports car I would stick with my Spyder since none of the current cars in the $100 - $150K range attract me nearly as much.
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I think the $100K threshold does present a psychological hurdle to some. In my case I just can't see myself driving a $100K+ car on roads shared by so many distracted drivers. I know that sounds elitist, but about 10% of the drivers in my area just don't invest much effort focusing on their driving. The only way these drivers get from point A to point B without colliding with something is by a combination of luck and defensive drivers.

I was reading a post on the 991 forum about a guy who owned his 991 for only a month, and some guy collided with his car. The repair bill is over $20K. It's bad enough when you have a $50K car that gets crunched; it's sickening when the car costs well over $100K.
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I'm not so sure an $80,000 Boxster S is the sweet spot with this car. To me the base makes a lot more sense as a mid $50K daily driver that you can pile the miles on. Seems like a heck of a value for that price.
Old 08-07-2012 | 11:49 PM
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Saw this in the parking lot today:

Standard boxster, 19" wheels, PDK. The owner absolutely loves the car.
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Saw this in the parking lot today:

Standard boxster, 19" wheels, PDK. The owner absolutely loves the car.
I'm shocked it cleared the wheel stop...
Old 08-07-2012 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jwade
I'm shocked it cleared the wheel stop...
Very astute observation. I'm not sure if this car has PASM or not. If it doesn't have PASM it would sit 10mm higher, so that could be it. I'll have to ask the owner.
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Saw this in the parking lot today:

Standard boxster, 19" wheels, PDK. The owner absolutely loves the car.
what colour is that?
Old 08-08-2012 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by clutchplate
I'm not so sure an $80,000 Boxster S is the sweet spot with this car. To me the base makes a lot more sense as a mid $50K daily driver that you can pile the miles on. Seems like a heck of a value for that price.
Actually there's only about a $10K differance between the base and S. If you are careful with the options you select and work hard for a discount, upper $60s is doable for an S. Nevertheless, I agree with your observation about the base. I just like the extra power in the S.
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Originally Posted by jwade
I'm shocked it cleared the wheel stop...
I don't know if he's lucky or that good. When the clearance is that small, I park tail first.


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