Pop-Up Light Cayman GTS @ Sonoma Raceway
#1
Intermediate
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Pop-Up Light Cayman GTS @ Sonoma Raceway
Went on my 4th HPDE event this weekend in Sonoma (first time there) and my first track experience with the CGTS. Halfway through my first non lead/follow session this popped up!
Annoyingly, it was at turn 2 so I had to put on my hazards (while staring at the headlight blinking at me) and do a slow parade lap to get out.
Anyways, I've since learned how to secure the headlight using the tool through the hole in the frunk so hopefully this doesn't happen again. In general, the car was a blast to drive. I'm coming from an E46 M3 and that car feels a little loose in comparison where there's a bit more of a delay between steering inputs and how the car moves. The CGTS feels really immediate and tight. I appreciate the more permissive traction control where the older system on the E46 cuts power pretty early with slip and in sport mode the CGTS lets you slide a bit more (not that I was exactly trying to). I also really appreciated how smart the PDK was. I am still a novice and not having to think about shifting while still trying to get my sea legs was helpful. I managed to get a few hot laps in before the light popped out and can't wait to get it out there again.
Also, I assume this moisture in the taillight is typical and nothing to worry about?
Annoyingly, it was at turn 2 so I had to put on my hazards (while staring at the headlight blinking at me) and do a slow parade lap to get out.
Anyways, I've since learned how to secure the headlight using the tool through the hole in the frunk so hopefully this doesn't happen again. In general, the car was a blast to drive. I'm coming from an E46 M3 and that car feels a little loose in comparison where there's a bit more of a delay between steering inputs and how the car moves. The CGTS feels really immediate and tight. I appreciate the more permissive traction control where the older system on the E46 cuts power pretty early with slip and in sport mode the CGTS lets you slide a bit more (not that I was exactly trying to). I also really appreciated how smart the PDK was. I am still a novice and not having to think about shifting while still trying to get my sea legs was helpful. I managed to get a few hot laps in before the light popped out and can't wait to get it out there again.
Also, I assume this moisture in the taillight is typical and nothing to worry about?
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FINZ (02-14-2023)
#2
for some reason those pics are kinda funny. Even though I'd be annoyed it happened. Did you have the headlight out recently? Good thing no wires or tabs broke.
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nytelfer (02-16-2023)
#3
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I only recently got the car so I’d never taken the headlights out. I guess I do worry that some sort of tab has broken. Maybe I’ll take it out again today and look more closely.
#4
Instructor
Bizarre problem with the headlight. Modern stability control systems have come a long way since the E46 generation of cars. I used to have a 2002 330Ci and I could disable traction control and still make the ESC light twinkle like a star. Porsche's system is solid and after a couple of dozen HPDE days in the CGTS I have only felt it intervene during events where it was raining hard enough that we were allowed to drive with windows up. Fwiw, sport plus is the default track day setting for me.
#5
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Actually, I have heard of this happening at the local track, gotta put the lights back in properly, someone didn’t!
#6
Three Wheelin'
You are lucky. The last time I saw this happen the driver lost the whole headlight assy at the end of the Summit Pt Main straightaway. He drove the rest of the day without it and picked it up the end of the day. As I remember each side turns a different direction and takes considerable force to lock.
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Yeah, I'm hoping to go out to Thunderhill at the start of March with the local PCA chapter and will make sure I tighten everything up before I'm on track!
Also, I figured since this was my first HDPE in the Cayman (and a mid engine car in general) leaving it in sport and taking it a little easy was the prudent move. As I get more comfortable with the dynamics and push harder, I'll definitely use sport+ as Porsche intended!
Also, I figured since this was my first HDPE in the Cayman (and a mid engine car in general) leaving it in sport and taking it a little easy was the prudent move. As I get more comfortable with the dynamics and push harder, I'll definitely use sport+ as Porsche intended!
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#8
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Yeah, I'm hoping to go out to Thunderhill at the start of March with the local PCA chapter and will make sure I tighten everything up before I'm on track!
Also, I figured since this was my first HDPE in the Cayman (and a mid engine car in general) leaving it in sport and taking it a little easy was the prudent move. As I get more comfortable with the dynamics and push harder, I'll definitely use sport+ as Porsche intended!
Also, I figured since this was my first HDPE in the Cayman (and a mid engine car in general) leaving it in sport and taking it a little easy was the prudent move. As I get more comfortable with the dynamics and push harder, I'll definitely use sport+ as Porsche intended!
My motto is "you have to drive this thing home stupid" so I am completely on board with probing your limits instead of just smashing through them and dealing with the consequences later. My car is a manual and I can't heel & toe to save my life, so sport plus (with rev matching) for me it is.
#9
Three Wheelin'
From what I know the main difference between Sport and Sport+ will be the shift points. Sport+ tries to stay between 4K and redline. PASM and PADM I believe are the same. If not already you will notice the wear on the outer edge of the left front. More negative camber is need for any significant track time. Stock suspension might get you -1 at best. Adjustable LCAs or camber plates are needed to get a typical track alignment of -2 to -2.5. If you DD or have high street miles the insides will wear. A dedicated set of 18s with 200TW track tires is common. Recommend Sebro slotted and Pagid RSL29s pads from FCPEuro somewhere further down the slippery slope along with Motul 660 brake fluid. Our first PCA DE is at Summit Point Main Mar 24-26.
#10
Intermediate
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Do you put on the new wheels/tires before heading to the track or is there some way to fit them all in the car?
Unrelated, but what do folks use the two storage cubbies with the sliding doors behind the seats for? They seem too hard to reach to be of too much use.
Unrelated, but what do folks use the two storage cubbies with the sliding doors behind the seats for? They seem too hard to reach to be of too much use.
#11
Three Wheelin'
Mine is a 2013 Boxster S. I know a Cayman is a safer vehicle for the track, but I like the convertible and believe the additional risk for DE is minimal. I think it is possible in a Cayman but not practical. Two in the back, one in the frunk and one on the passenger seat. I put my canopy on the passenger side and large plastic tub in the frunk. I drive to and from on my track wheels and tires. I'm 65 minutes from the track. I have tracked on my PZeros on 20s when I knew the weather was going to be wet and cold for the weekend. You could buy a hitch for Boxsters and Caymans before COVID but not now.