968 investment?
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As many here have stated, a 968 is a complete package. It's lower power rating can be a blessing that allows people to be able to exploit it to 8/10th where faster cars would get one in trouble. Wring the 4 banger, hit the corners and it could run with the best. I Often find it scary to try driving the turbo fast because of its massive hp/tq on the same roads where the cab makes me feel fully in control. The big difference is the amount of speed I am carryinbg before I have to get down to safe speeds to make the turns. The speed differential could easily be 15-20mph. This is on 2 different 968's, one with an added 200hp/tq but similar chassis (one being cab and the other coupe). I have always found the cab easier to push hard, not sure if its the open cockpit or lower center of gravity.
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I wish I could give you better news, but from a financial perspective, 968 ownership is a mixed bag. don't get me wrong. I love the cars. still, personally, I regret not putting my money toward an air-cooled 993 - 7 years ago, instead of my 968.
it was fairly obvious then, that the cars (968s) weren't going to move much. and it's going to stay that way. too late now. so hopefully, i'll enjoy my 968 as much as or more than ever once infused with V8 power for the pure pleasure of driving it, and lower cost to keep moving down the road. whether or not this actually occurs, remains to be seen... what led to this was a failure to be able to justify the cost of upkeep vs the power delivered - used as a high-mile/year daily driver. maybe I was being unrealistic, but from where i'm sitting, I'm fairly certain that upkeep of the 968 engine is as expensive if not actually more expensive than on a 993.
done well, a proper v8 swap is prohibitively expensive. and only a few of us have chosen to go that route after living the 968 experience... the air-cooled 911s are priced out of sight, but, I think there are still good~great Porsche buys out there to be had. and i'm going to get in a 2nd one very soon. unfortunately, I don't believe the 968 yet makes the list of Porsches deserving to be coveted for any hope of financial advantage.
but if you drive a well sorted 968, and decide you like it, the sky's the limit for pure enjoyment or even supercar performance (with additional investment).
it was fairly obvious then, that the cars (968s) weren't going to move much. and it's going to stay that way. too late now. so hopefully, i'll enjoy my 968 as much as or more than ever once infused with V8 power for the pure pleasure of driving it, and lower cost to keep moving down the road. whether or not this actually occurs, remains to be seen... what led to this was a failure to be able to justify the cost of upkeep vs the power delivered - used as a high-mile/year daily driver. maybe I was being unrealistic, but from where i'm sitting, I'm fairly certain that upkeep of the 968 engine is as expensive if not actually more expensive than on a 993.
done well, a proper v8 swap is prohibitively expensive. and only a few of us have chosen to go that route after living the 968 experience... the air-cooled 911s are priced out of sight, but, I think there are still good~great Porsche buys out there to be had. and i'm going to get in a 2nd one very soon. unfortunately, I don't believe the 968 yet makes the list of Porsches deserving to be coveted for any hope of financial advantage.
but if you drive a well sorted 968, and decide you like it, the sky's the limit for pure enjoyment or even supercar performance (with additional investment).
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I know this is all speculative, but I think we have to step out of the Porsche-centric world when speculating about future price appreciation, and compare the 968 to cars it competed with in the marketplace when it was new. When early-nineties RX7's, 300ZX's, Supra's, and C4 Corvettes start appreciating, chances are the 968 will as well. Before then, I doubt it.
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When I first got into Porsches (early 2000's) the scarlet letter 911 was the late 70's 2.7. Pulled head studs, not smog exempt in Cali, etc meant you could potentially buy those a dime a dozen. I would argue those cars have appreciated more than any other Porsche since. I'm not talking $$$, but % wise. I remember looking at 2 back in the day, both mid 70's just normal run of the mill 911's and neither was more than $6-7500...now take a look, either car would be $15k-20k+ at worst. I know they have been pulled up by the craziness of the early 911's but that is serious appreciation for the so-called "worst 911's" out there.
I believe the 968's have most of the qualities needed to become collectibles but the fact they aren't air-cooled will extend the time it takes to get there....all IMHO of course
I believe the 968's have most of the qualities needed to become collectibles but the fact they aren't air-cooled will extend the time it takes to get there....all IMHO of course
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This is like trying to time the stock market. It's an impossible question. I don't care for the Porsche-sized repair bills though for maintenance. A bit unfair a 991 TTS will be at the same labor rate as these. No strong indys in my area.
One thing is for sure that I believe you gents talked me into.... an auto in these vehicles is much less desirable. Any collector will likely be our age and will be able to drive a standard. Further, I think I will steer clear of this one. I contacted the dealer via email with some direct questions and he never got back to me. I prefer email over verbal on phone obviously.
Sooooo that means there must be something majorly wrong they don't want to mention in writing.
Still like these cars. Question: the riviera blue color...I thought that debuted on the 993 BUT they made 968 in riviera? that is a very cool aspect. I have never seen a 964 in riviera (as an original color). This is quite interesting..the 968 debuted that now highly coveted color? I would have never guessed that. Let me know if that's wrong.
One thing is for sure that I believe you gents talked me into.... an auto in these vehicles is much less desirable. Any collector will likely be our age and will be able to drive a standard. Further, I think I will steer clear of this one. I contacted the dealer via email with some direct questions and he never got back to me. I prefer email over verbal on phone obviously.
Sooooo that means there must be something majorly wrong they don't want to mention in writing.
Still like these cars. Question: the riviera blue color...I thought that debuted on the 993 BUT they made 968 in riviera? that is a very cool aspect. I have never seen a 964 in riviera (as an original color). This is quite interesting..the 968 debuted that now highly coveted color? I would have never guessed that. Let me know if that's wrong.
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Question: the riviera blue color...I thought that debuted on the 993 BUT they made 968 in riviera? that is a very cool aspect. I have never seen a 964 in riviera (as an original color). This is quite interesting..the 968 debuted that now highly coveted color? I would have never guessed that. Let me know if that's wrong.
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S8 Riviera Blue was made available to the full line of Porsche products starting in September of 1993 for the model year 1994. For North America, 5 968 cabs and 1 968 coupe were produced in Riviera Blue. The cabs were all 6 speeds (Raj owns one of them) and the coupe was a tip (now owned by Trevor, and converted to a 6 speed). All 6 of them were 1994s. There would be Riviera Blue 911s (993) and 928s as well (a Riviera Blue 928 was used in the 1995 Porsche calendar). Others like it too
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