968 Cabriolet Pricing Help
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Parts are not an issue to get for the 968. Many are the same as on a 944S2. Once in awhile a part can be hard to find, but you can usually find it.
I am selling my 968, market for these cars is tough. They may be rare, but they are by no means very desirable.
I am selling my 968, market for these cars is tough. They may be rare, but they are by no means very desirable.
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despite the kind of money you're seeing being charged for these cars, it doesn't make them any better. you're still looking at a lot of parts which will require replacement now, or not far down the road. this should cause potential buyers to tip-toe around these cars and run numbers. (I know it's blasphemy, but by the time the dust cleared, you could have been in a 996 with lower miles, nice interior and had a fresh IMS installed). I wouldn't buy a 968 from Auto Trader or Cars.com at these silly prices. a basket case car is probably a better deal. you can get it sorted, put a nice coat of paint and fresh seat covers and end up with a great looking car for less than one of these over-priced deals. i'd look for something (like what Doc sorted) on ebay or whatever. of course, I'd prolly just sell the engine..... when all is said and done, there's *marginal justification to be gazing down at that surly engine when you pop the hood.
*of course, if you'd be only putting a few thousand miles on the car each year, then....
but I wanna daily drive it.
*of course, if you'd be only putting a few thousand miles on the car each year, then....
but I wanna daily drive it.
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I think there's a market for the $13-18k 968 car. Of course, it has to be in a racy color, have good options, and be presented well, but the 968 as getaway car is equivalent to the Boxter or even better in my opinion. It certainly has some more useful features like a nice size trunk, and kiddie seats if you need those(cabs excepted). I could spend $15k for a blue, yellow, red, or green cab with 17" wheels, maybe LSD, 6sp, medium miles and tan leather that was well documented. I'm not in that market, but I think it's justified.
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except that there are almost no cars with LSDs.
i'm trying not to be negative, but the options packages on *93% of all 968s SUCKED.
*(my crass/subjective...)
i'm trying not to be negative, but the options packages on *93% of all 968s SUCKED.
*(my crass/subjective...)
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Just ask...
32% (584 of 1,811 6 speed North American 968 coupes) had 220 LSD
21% (300 of 1,447 6 speed North American 968 cabs) had 220 LSD
78% of the NA M030 coupes (76 of 98 6 speed) had 220 LSD
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wow. had no idea the number was that high.
do I ever feel like a ***.
it's also nice to know how many 6 speeds were delivered.
thanks Jeff.
do I ever feel like a ***.
it's also nice to know how many 6 speeds were delivered.
thanks Jeff.
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I'm probably going to ruffle some feathers by saying this, but I don't think any 968 (unless it's an uber-rare color or has some other unique quality that someone out there just has to have), even an original-owner example with a full repair history and all repair and maintenance records in immaculate condition, is worth a penny over $10K. And one in average condition shouldn't go for much over $5K.
Why? These cars are an average of about 20 years old, so unless you can find one which has gotten a recent full restoration, down to the replacement of every single consumable piece (which nobody would do because of the prohibitive cost), you're going to be looking at a daunting list of repairs - oil pan gasket, RMS, balance shaft seals, engine mounts, belts, vacuum lines, possibly hoses, likely a DMF soon, possibly a clutch, transaxle input shaft seal, CV joints, probably every bushing, the power cables, a likely inoperative sunroof or a cab top in dire need of very expensive attention, a host of electrical glitches, the ticking time bomb of the pinion bearings, etc., before you even start thinking about the plethora of cosmetic items that will likely need attention. While it's a nice, super-versatile car that we all enjoy, the 968 was an overpriced, underpowered flop in the marketplace that nearly put Porsche out of business, and it was replaced by a car that has become an icon. Not a good recipe for future price appreciation.
Yes, there are plenty of 968s on Autotrader and in Panorama with owners asking in the mid to high teens, but these people are dreaming, as can be seen by how long these cars languish in the classifieds. Mine is in slightly above-average condition, and is a desirable color, and I tried selling it a couple of years ago, but gave up after many fruitless months when I realized $5-7K was about all I was going to get out of it. On top of all that, the market for these cars is miniscule, so finding that right buyer is a very long and patience-trying process. Which is why I've converted mine to a still-streetable track car, and plan to have a blast with it.
Why? These cars are an average of about 20 years old, so unless you can find one which has gotten a recent full restoration, down to the replacement of every single consumable piece (which nobody would do because of the prohibitive cost), you're going to be looking at a daunting list of repairs - oil pan gasket, RMS, balance shaft seals, engine mounts, belts, vacuum lines, possibly hoses, likely a DMF soon, possibly a clutch, transaxle input shaft seal, CV joints, probably every bushing, the power cables, a likely inoperative sunroof or a cab top in dire need of very expensive attention, a host of electrical glitches, the ticking time bomb of the pinion bearings, etc., before you even start thinking about the plethora of cosmetic items that will likely need attention. While it's a nice, super-versatile car that we all enjoy, the 968 was an overpriced, underpowered flop in the marketplace that nearly put Porsche out of business, and it was replaced by a car that has become an icon. Not a good recipe for future price appreciation.
Yes, there are plenty of 968s on Autotrader and in Panorama with owners asking in the mid to high teens, but these people are dreaming, as can be seen by how long these cars languish in the classifieds. Mine is in slightly above-average condition, and is a desirable color, and I tried selling it a couple of years ago, but gave up after many fruitless months when I realized $5-7K was about all I was going to get out of it. On top of all that, the market for these cars is miniscule, so finding that right buyer is a very long and patience-trying process. Which is why I've converted mine to a still-streetable track car, and plan to have a blast with it.
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I'm probably going to ruffle some feathers by saying this, but I don't think any 968 (unless it's an uber-rare color or has some other unique quality that someone out there just has to have), even an original-owner example with a full repair history and all repair and maintenance records in immaculate condition, is worth a penny over $10K. And one in average condition shouldn't go for much over $5K.
Here's a 95 coupe with 70K miles that sold for almost $14K:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...127a96&vxp=mtr
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I think Cloud 9 and Jeff are both kinda right. Most of the fleet tops around $9k in the market. Exceptional cars bring low to mid teens. That black one owner with 70k miles, new paint, doctor owned, no excuses, last model year, 17" wheels went for a premium. In this case the premium was about $5k.
There's been a green coupe with auto in Houston for sale for 5 months. I had it looked at and it's only asking $9k and won't move. There's evidence of maybe an engine fire, and the paint isn't that good. It's one of the cars that going to go for $6k some day wen the seller finally gets wise. However, that dark green with purple int and lots of options is $15k or better. But - you gotta have the goods to get the bucks.
There's been a green coupe with auto in Houston for sale for 5 months. I had it looked at and it's only asking $9k and won't move. There's evidence of maybe an engine fire, and the paint isn't that good. It's one of the cars that going to go for $6k some day wen the seller finally gets wise. However, that dark green with purple int and lots of options is $15k or better. But - you gotta have the goods to get the bucks.
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Here's a great example;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...#ht_500wt_1184
The car just needs a new top. Everything else looks to be in order, but it's having trouble getting $10k for it. Suppose the parts and labor for a new top are $1000. Why not do that, and get $12k or so out of it? I think this car is worth every penny of $12k with a new top if there's no other issues.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...#ht_500wt_1184
The car just needs a new top. Everything else looks to be in order, but it's having trouble getting $10k for it. Suppose the parts and labor for a new top are $1000. Why not do that, and get $12k or so out of it? I think this car is worth every penny of $12k with a new top if there's no other issues.