968CS wins the Porsche Club Drivers Championship
10-06-2011, 05:46 AM
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968CS wins the Porsche Club Drivers Championship
Hi all. Some of you are aware I built a club race car up last year from my long term 968CS, with help from Pete (RS Barn), and I compete in the (NSW, Australia) Porsche Club Drivers Championship. The focus of the mods was mainly handling, diff, weight (eg - all the windows are toughened plexi bar the windscreen) and safety with a 997GT3RS style cage etc etc.
This championship is made up of 9 rounds, and uses a class system to equalise the field, so that we all compete against benchmark times for our class, with each class based on power to weight. This is my third year in this. In the first year I was the Rookie of the year (outright).
For the just concluded 2011 season, I am rather pleased to relay that my 968CS and I have won not only the relevant class Drivers Championship for the year, but also the outright (all car classes) Porsche Drivers Championship for 2011.
Here is a little article regarding me and my car the team that support me here (thanks to Autohaus Hamilton) have put on their site, for those interested. Re the pics, the car was a stock MO30 equipped car when it featured the red livery.
Enjoy. --> http://blog.autohaushamilton.com.au/...club-champion/
Background
The class system --> http://www.pcnsw.com.au/PorscheClubs...asses_v1_0.pdf
MC968CS
This championship is made up of 9 rounds, and uses a class system to equalise the field, so that we all compete against benchmark times for our class, with each class based on power to weight. This is my third year in this. In the first year I was the Rookie of the year (outright).
For the just concluded 2011 season, I am rather pleased to relay that my 968CS and I have won not only the relevant class Drivers Championship for the year, but also the outright (all car classes) Porsche Drivers Championship for 2011.
Here is a little article regarding me and my car the team that support me here (thanks to Autohaus Hamilton) have put on their site, for those interested. Re the pics, the car was a stock MO30 equipped car when it featured the red livery.
Enjoy. --> http://blog.autohaushamilton.com.au/...club-champion/
Background
The class system --> http://www.pcnsw.com.au/PorscheClubs...asses_v1_0.pdf
MC968CS
Last edited by MC 968CS; 10-06-2011 at 05:49 AM. Reason: fixing the links
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10-07-2011, 05:31 AM
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Thanks all. It is a testament to the track speed of our cars.
Tires are semi slicks - bridgestone and yokohama for majority of the season.
Suspension - a lot of work here. Shocks are custom Koni 2800 series double adjustable. (http://www.koniracing.com/2812mk2.cfm ) they are matched with upgraded moderately lowered springs, full delrin bushes throughout (thats a lot of bushes), and heaps more from upgraded A arms to top hats ....everything was the best I could find for the car. The only stock bit left suspension wise is likely the MO30 sway bars. Interestingly the shocks seem the key, and they are simply incredible. The way they take basically anything I throw at them has been a revelation, and for the money they want to be. I think the ride much firmer but so much smoother than the standard Koni MO30 Yellow type setup it is incredible.
Cage......have a look at a 997 GT3RS.....then custom design that 'type' into a 968 and have it custom built to CAMS (local race authority) specs and you get the idea. I am into safety so its a very good cage, with the second criterion for the build that it had to look exactly like it was done by Porsche to their standards of engineering, fit and finish. It is like art to me in my revision mirror. Yep, I am a fanatic. Ha!
Tires are semi slicks - bridgestone and yokohama for majority of the season.
Suspension - a lot of work here. Shocks are custom Koni 2800 series double adjustable. (http://www.koniracing.com/2812mk2.cfm ) they are matched with upgraded moderately lowered springs, full delrin bushes throughout (thats a lot of bushes), and heaps more from upgraded A arms to top hats ....everything was the best I could find for the car. The only stock bit left suspension wise is likely the MO30 sway bars. Interestingly the shocks seem the key, and they are simply incredible. The way they take basically anything I throw at them has been a revelation, and for the money they want to be. I think the ride much firmer but so much smoother than the standard Koni MO30 Yellow type setup it is incredible.
Cage......have a look at a 997 GT3RS.....then custom design that 'type' into a 968 and have it custom built to CAMS (local race authority) specs and you get the idea. I am into safety so its a very good cage, with the second criterion for the build that it had to look exactly like it was done by Porsche to their standards of engineering, fit and finish. It is like art to me in my revision mirror. Yep, I am a fanatic. Ha!
10-07-2011, 12:37 PM
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I saw Dunlop treaded tires in the photos of your 968 and wasn't sure if you raced on those. Why did you choose Koni 2812 over Moton/AST/JRZ/KW etc? They all appear to be roughly the same price range. Thanks for the comparison between the 2812 and stock m030 Koni's.
10-07-2011, 07:00 PM
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Shock views get controversial....will share some thoughts though.
If Koni 2800's are now the same price as some of the others, that is bit of a bargain. The 28 series is (was?) usually the dearest shock, made by the koni racing division, available. I am familiar with a few of the brands you refer too, including with direct use by me, from other cars I have driven or raced. My view is that the kw's are an awesome good value club package. They really are good. I serously considered them for this car too. They are really however not in the same league as moton or the koni shocks. There are lots of little differences that add up from materials (more plastic) to (from memory) the strut dia etc. Koni and moton are similar standard superb top end shocks. You then need to build the kit around them. Kw's are a total 'kit'. I rate that.
The choice for me, with the very best in mind, narrowed down to Moton or Koni. Koni ended up being the choice as the way they have double adjustability with an internal canister type system in the strut body, vs cutting holes and mounting remote (ugly) canisters, is just too clever to ignore. In addition, the range of size and characteristics Koni offered is incredible, and the aftermarket (eg: if you damage a shock) care is very good and fast. Moton cant match that - for me. The little details on these Koni's are cool. For a further example, the bump wheel adjuster is an anodised black (black for bump) wheel. The rebound is an anodised red wheel (red for rebound). Oh...and as a perk, using Koni keeps the theme Porsche used going, ie: the car has MO30 Koni shocks for the factory, and now runs their 'big brother'.
Another option was a total handbuilt shock by a top Porsche Rally suspension guru I had access too. In the end i went the Koni 28's, and the race engineer on my car, who had not used them before, considers them about the best shock he has ever worked with, now that he has, for 2 seasons. He runs plenty of top GT3 cup cars, Porsche rally cars globally etc.
Hope that helps you.
If Koni 2800's are now the same price as some of the others, that is bit of a bargain. The 28 series is (was?) usually the dearest shock, made by the koni racing division, available. I am familiar with a few of the brands you refer too, including with direct use by me, from other cars I have driven or raced. My view is that the kw's are an awesome good value club package. They really are good. I serously considered them for this car too. They are really however not in the same league as moton or the koni shocks. There are lots of little differences that add up from materials (more plastic) to (from memory) the strut dia etc. Koni and moton are similar standard superb top end shocks. You then need to build the kit around them. Kw's are a total 'kit'. I rate that.
The choice for me, with the very best in mind, narrowed down to Moton or Koni. Koni ended up being the choice as the way they have double adjustability with an internal canister type system in the strut body, vs cutting holes and mounting remote (ugly) canisters, is just too clever to ignore. In addition, the range of size and characteristics Koni offered is incredible, and the aftermarket (eg: if you damage a shock) care is very good and fast. Moton cant match that - for me. The little details on these Koni's are cool. For a further example, the bump wheel adjuster is an anodised black (black for bump) wheel. The rebound is an anodised red wheel (red for rebound). Oh...and as a perk, using Koni keeps the theme Porsche used going, ie: the car has MO30 Koni shocks for the factory, and now runs their 'big brother'.
Another option was a total handbuilt shock by a top Porsche Rally suspension guru I had access too. In the end i went the Koni 28's, and the race engineer on my car, who had not used them before, considers them about the best shock he has ever worked with, now that he has, for 2 seasons. He runs plenty of top GT3 cup cars, Porsche rally cars globally etc.
Hope that helps you.
Last edited by MC 968CS; 10-07-2011 at 10:03 PM.
10-08-2011, 09:47 PM
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Burning Brakes
Its great to see a 968 on the poduim!!!!! I was reading a post on another forum where one of the SEA ( self appointed experts ) was spouting off that the 968 did not make a good race car. A fool followed by lemmings
It is alway fun to take my 968 to the track and out perform newer cars with more HP!!!!!
Again, Good on ya!!!
It is alway fun to take my 968 to the track and out perform newer cars with more HP!!!!!
Again, Good on ya!!!