Various new 968 products, Turbo RS type II wing, 993 headlight conversion
#46
Racer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Palm Beach, FL / Hamburg, DE
Posts: 418
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
9 Posts
MN – surprisingly we do get asked qu’s the same or along the lines of yours all the time. No pans at the moment though but converting a 944 to 968 is not a huge job (from an exterior looks perspective only) and has been done many times before in the past. There are already kits out on the market that cater for this and whilst they sold well when the 968 was launched, demand is now very low.
I do not think the rear of a 968 or for that matter the rear of a 928 GTS (which I have) look better than the rear of the earlier cars. The sole reason the 968 and later 928 models got a new integrated rear was that these were easier (read cheaper) to manufacture.
MN
Last edited by MN; 01-12-2011 at 12:57 PM.
#47
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cheshire, England & Trosa, Sweden
Posts: 1,837
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
mark,
I will try and dig through my pics tonight and post the pic i have of the red car & blue car parked side by side.
I will try and dig through my pics tonight and post the pic i have of the red car & blue car parked side by side.
I did not mean as a "conversion kit" to convert a 944 into a 968, but as a means for improving the aesthetics and utility of the 944. 993 type lights and fender - in my opinion - could look very classy on the 944, similarly like the 993/968/928GTS side mirrors - in my opinion - look very classy on the 944.
I do not think the rear of a 968 or for that matter the rear of a 928 GTS (which I have) look better than the rear of the earlier cars.
The sole reason the 968 and later models of the 928 got a new integrated rear was that these were easier (cheaper) to manufacture.
MN
I do not think the rear of a 968 or for that matter the rear of a 928 GTS (which I have) look better than the rear of the earlier cars.
The sole reason the 968 and later models of the 928 got a new integrated rear was that these were easier (cheaper) to manufacture.
MN
You are also correct (or part correct) about the later PU's being developed to save costs. This is not just relevant to Porsche but to all car manufactures as PU moulding became more assessable in the late 1980’s as a cost reducer for mass produced parts (FRP does not lend it's self to mass production and older style steel bumper were/are as you state very expensive) – aesthetics did and do also play a part though
#48
Shipping to US.
Any idea what freight to the US would be? I shipped a 968 engine to Australia last year via IQ Global and it was less that $400.00 US. When you do your LS conversion let me know if I can be of any help I have been doing them for many years now.
#49
Burning Brakes
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New York City
Posts: 782
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thanks Fox and hear is a link specially for you sir ... its the ArkTech front bumper development: http://www32.ocn.ne.jp/~setocruise/page027.html
:
:
Thank you for the link, checking out other photos on that page...i ran across this car as well. A 3rd (black) 968 with Arktech's front end & 993 headlight conversion?
#50
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cheshire, England & Trosa, Sweden
Posts: 1,837
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
On a plus it does look very tastefully done and I'm a big fan of the Volks TE37 wheels
You can see that they got there inspiration the the 993 EVO front bumper:
I had to laugh at this one though:
#51
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cheshire, England & Trosa, Sweden
Posts: 1,837
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Any idea what freight to the US would be? I shipped a 968 engine to Australia last year via IQ Global and it was less that $400.00 US. When you do your LS conversion let me know if I can be of any help I have been doing them for many years now.
I think you are in the ball-park with what you've paid. We can always do bulk shipping to a truste address in the US - I'll keep it open at the moment into I have proper shipping prices
#52
Looks like I will be placing an order shortly. This would solve my venting dilemna for my intercooler with my 951 sheet metal. It also solves the headlight equation for me. Awesome!
#53
Team Owner
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: one thousand, five hundred miles north of Ft. Lauderdale for the summer.
Posts: 28,704
Received 212 Likes
on
153 Posts
yes, way more modern looking car. if you convert a 944 into a supercar. it still looks like a 944.... build the 968 and the rest of the car is ready. it has way, superior lines in my opinion. i would be terrified to take any 944 up over 140 mph.... been there and done 135~138 in my '87 944S back in the day, and even that was frightening. my 968 feels amazing at 155 +.
#54
Racer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Palm Beach, FL / Hamburg, DE
Posts: 418
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
9 Posts
Markus, yes I understood mate and it's definately a case of personal taste
Reasonable people might ever differ which rear 924/944 vs. 968 and/or early 928 vs. late 928 is better or more desirable without reaching a clear consensus which one is better or more desirable.
But regarding the front, I think a clear consensus could be reached that the 993 type headlight and 993 type fender is aesthetically and functionally superior to the 924/944/968 headlight & fender.
Make it lightweight (CF?) and you better get ready for a large flood of orders.
MN
Last edited by MN; 01-12-2011 at 04:12 PM.
#55
yes, way more modern looking car. if you convert a 944 into a supercar. it still looks like a 944.... build the 968 and the rest of the car is ready. it has way, superior lines in my opinion. i would be terrified to take any 944 up over 140 mph.... been there and done 135~138 in my '87 944S back in the day, and even that was frightening. my 968 feels amazing at 155 +.
Its a matter of looks to me. My 951 is very nice and is very well sorted, and is putting down as much power as a 968 Turbo RS. Trust me, I have had two recent gut wrenching decisions to make regarding my personal "holy grail", a Horizon Blue 968, but ultimately, I have put too much into my 951 to walk away from it now. Even if I parted it, I doubt I'd make anywhere near the money I would want to get out of it to justify starting over again on what would basically be the same car, in a different color. I hadn't really considered swapping the front end until I saw this thread, but now, I am very intrigued.
#56
Burning Brakes
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New York City
Posts: 782
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
agreed, i had 951 at speeds over 140 and it did not feel unstable at all. On another note, I may be mistaken, but i believe the 944 Turbop/S2 front end has a better drag coef. then the 968 front end (both with the lights down).
#58
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
It must have been an issue with your particular 944 as I have had numerous 951's well over that speed and never had that problem. If properly maintained, there should be no great difference between a 951 and a 968 at speeds over 140 mph.
Its a matter of looks to me. My 951 is very nice and is very well sorted, and is putting down as much power as a 968 Turbo RS. Trust me, I have had two recent gut wrenching decisions to make regarding my personal "holy grail", a Horizon Blue 968, but ultimately, I have put too much into my 951 to walk away from it now. Even if I parted it, I doubt I'd make anywhere near the money I would want to get out of it to justify starting over again on what would basically be the same car, in a different color. I hadn't really considered swapping the front end until I saw this thread, but now, I am very intrigued.
Its a matter of looks to me. My 951 is very nice and is very well sorted, and is putting down as much power as a 968 Turbo RS. Trust me, I have had two recent gut wrenching decisions to make regarding my personal "holy grail", a Horizon Blue 968, but ultimately, I have put too much into my 951 to walk away from it now. Even if I parted it, I doubt I'd make anywhere near the money I would want to get out of it to justify starting over again on what would basically be the same car, in a different color. I hadn't really considered swapping the front end until I saw this thread, but now, I am very intrigued.
IIRC the drag coefficient of a 951/S2 is 0.01 lower than a 968 with their headlights down, but 0.01 higher than a 968 with their headlights up.
#59
Nope, I will stay with Ocean Blue Metallic Even tho I would be bastardizing a 951 to do this, I still dislike doing color changes on cars.