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Old 01-12-2011, 12:39 PM
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MN – surprisingly we do get asked qu’s the same or along the lines of yours all the time. No pans at the moment though but converting a 944 to 968 is not a huge job (from an exterior looks perspective only) and has been done many times before in the past. There are already kits out on the market that cater for this and whilst they sold well when the 968 was launched, demand is now very low.
I did not mean as a "conversion kit" to convert a 944 into a 968, but as a means to improve the aesthetics and utility of the 944. 993 type lights and fender - in my opinion - could look very classy and timeless on the 944; similarly to the 993/968/928GTS side mirrors which are generally regarded to improve quite a bit the look of the 944.

I do not think the rear of a 968 or for that matter the rear of a 928 GTS (which I have) look better than the rear of the earlier cars. The sole reason the 968 and later 928 models got a new integrated rear was that these were easier (read cheaper) to manufacture.

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mark,

I will try and dig through my pics tonight and post the pic i have of the red car & blue car parked side by side.
Thanks Fox and hear is a link specially for you sir ... its the ArkTech front bumper development: http://www32.ocn.ne.jp/~setocruise/page027.html


I did not mean as a "conversion kit" to convert a 944 into a 968, but as a means for improving the aesthetics and utility of the 944. 993 type lights and fender - in my opinion - could look very classy on the 944, similarly like the 993/968/928GTS side mirrors - in my opinion - look very classy on the 944.

I do not think the rear of a 968 or for that matter the rear of a 928 GTS (which I have) look better than the rear of the earlier cars.

The sole reason the 968 and later models of the 928 got a new integrated rear was that these were easier (cheaper) to manufacture.

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Markus, yes I understood mate and it's definately a case of personal taste

You are also correct (or part correct) about the later PU's being developed to save costs. This is not just relevant to Porsche but to all car manufactures as PU moulding became more assessable in the late 1980ĺs as a cost reducer for mass produced parts (FRP does not lend it's self to mass production and older style steel bumper were/are as you state very expensive) ľ aesthetics did and do also play a part though
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Any idea what freight to the US would be? I shipped a 968 engine to Australia last year via IQ Global and it was less that $400.00 US. When you do your LS conversion let me know if I can be of any help I have been doing them for many years now.
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Thanks Fox and hear is a link specially for you sir ... its the ArkTech front bumper development: http://www32.ocn.ne.jp/~setocruise/page027.html

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Thank you for the link, checking out other photos on that page...i ran across this car as well. A 3rd (black) 968 with Arktech's front end & 993 headlight conversion?

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Thank you for the link, checking out other photos on that page...i ran across this car as well. A 3rd (black) 968 with Arktech's front end & 993 headlight conversion?

Yep I ran across that one also which begs the QU? why the hell can't the japanese publish websites with nice large pictures

On a plus it does look very tastefully done and I'm a big fan of the Volks TE37 wheels

You can see that they got there inspiration the the 993 EVO front bumper:


I had to laugh at this one though:
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Any idea what freight to the US would be? I shipped a 968 engine to Australia last year via IQ Global and it was less that $400.00 US. When you do your LS conversion let me know if I can be of any help I have been doing them for many years now.
Hi Tom, funny enough I had raised this QU with Beni this morning. Once I've been supplied with a final package size then I'll let you know. The current ones we've dispatched have been group purchases within Europe.

I think you are in the ball-park with what you've paid. We can always do bulk shipping to a truste address in the US - I'll keep it open at the moment into I have proper shipping prices
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Looks like I will be placing an order shortly. This would solve my venting dilemna for my intercooler with my 951 sheet metal. It also solves the headlight equation for me. Awesome!
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yes, way more modern looking car. if you convert a 944 into a supercar. it still looks like a 944.... build the 968 and the rest of the car is ready. it has way, superior lines in my opinion. i would be terrified to take any 944 up over 140 mph.... been there and done 135~138 in my '87 944S back in the day, and even that was frightening. my 968 feels amazing at 155 +.
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Markus, yes I understood mate and it's definately a case of personal taste
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Reasonable people might ever differ which rear 924/944 vs. 968 and/or early 928 vs. late 928 is better or more desirable without reaching a clear consensus which one is better or more desirable.

But regarding the front, I think a clear consensus could be reached that the 993 type headlight and 993 type fender is aesthetically and functionally superior to the 924/944/968 headlight & fender.

Make it lightweight (CF?) and you better get ready for a large flood of orders.

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yes, way more modern looking car. if you convert a 944 into a supercar. it still looks like a 944.... build the 968 and the rest of the car is ready. it has way, superior lines in my opinion. i would be terrified to take any 944 up over 140 mph.... been there and done 135~138 in my '87 944S back in the day, and even that was frightening. my 968 feels amazing at 155 +.
It must have been an issue with your particular 944 as I have had numerous 951's well over that speed and never had that problem. If properly maintained, there should be no great difference between a 951 and a 968 at speeds over 140 mph.

Its a matter of looks to me. My 951 is very nice and is very well sorted, and is putting down as much power as a 968 Turbo RS. Trust me, I have had two recent gut wrenching decisions to make regarding my personal "holy grail", a Horizon Blue 968, but ultimately, I have put too much into my 951 to walk away from it now. Even if I parted it, I doubt I'd make anywhere near the money I would want to get out of it to justify starting over again on what would basically be the same car, in a different color. I hadn't really considered swapping the front end until I saw this thread, but now, I am very intrigued.
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agreed, i had 951 at speeds over 140 and it did not feel unstable at all. On another note, I may be mistaken, but i believe the 944 Turbop/S2 front end has a better drag coef. then the 968 front end (both with the lights down).
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Mark:

Any thoughts of using LED lights instead of HID lights?

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Originally Posted by sh944 View Post
It must have been an issue with your particular 944 as I have had numerous 951's well over that speed and never had that problem. If properly maintained, there should be no great difference between a 951 and a 968 at speeds over 140 mph.

Its a matter of looks to me. My 951 is very nice and is very well sorted, and is putting down as much power as a 968 Turbo RS. Trust me, I have had two recent gut wrenching decisions to make regarding my personal "holy grail", a Horizon Blue 968, but ultimately, I have put too much into my 951 to walk away from it now. Even if I parted it, I doubt I'd make anywhere near the money I would want to get out of it to justify starting over again on what would basically be the same car, in a different color. I hadn't really considered swapping the front end until I saw this thread, but now, I am very intrigued.
So would you repaint your 951 Horizon Blue?

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agreed, i had 951 at speeds over 140 and it did not feel unstable at all. On another note, I may be mistaken, but i believe the 944 Turbop/S2 front end has a better drag coef. then the 968 front end (both with the lights down).
IIRC the drag coefficient of a 951/S2 is 0.01 lower than a 968 with their headlights down, but 0.01 higher than a 968 with their headlights up.
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Nope, I will stay with Ocean Blue Metallic Even tho I would be bastardizing a 951 to do this, I still dislike doing color changes on cars.
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IIRC the drag coefficient of a 951/S2 is 0.01 lower than a 968 with their headlights down, but 0.01 higher than a 968 with their headlights up.
So then, fixed-light 951/S2 front end for the best of both worlds?

968 still looks better
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