Notices
964 Forum 1989-1994
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

My 964 C2 Transformation Build Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-18-2016, 12:20 AM
  #526  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,567
Received 1,773 Likes on 1,081 Posts
Default

ACTION SHOT @ Chuckwalla Valley Raceway
All you SoCal 964 guys need to drive these things on track. Come to our next private day!

Had a chance to look at my data logs today. I was being a ***** in the corners. There is at least 5 more secs there. Overlay to my gt3 that car is faster everywhere, but I should be able to get similar (near) cornering gs. More *** sliding next time.

Thanks to Jerry at BBI Autosport for the shot. He takes great pics.

Old 04-18-2016, 01:13 AM
  #527  
02m2
Rennlist Member
 
02m2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,093
Received 27 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Great pic !!

Originally Posted by Spyerx
ACTION SHOT @ Chuckwalla Valley Raceway
All you SoCal 964 guys need to drive these things on track. Come to our next private day!

Had a chance to look at my data logs today. I was being a ***** in the corners. There is at least 5 more secs there. Overlay to my gt3 that car is faster everywhere, but I should be able to get similar (near) cornering gs. More *** sliding next time.

Thanks to Jerry at BBI Autosport for the shot. He takes great pics.

Old 04-18-2016, 12:13 PM
  #528  
cobalt
Rennlist Member
 
cobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 22,319
Received 2,022 Likes on 1,212 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Spyerx
ACTION SHOT @ Chuckwalla Valley Raceway
All you SoCal 964 guys need to drive these things on track. Come to our next private day!

Had a chance to look at my data logs today. I was being a ***** in the corners. There is at least 5 more secs there. Overlay to my gt3 that car is faster everywhere, but I should be able to get similar (near) cornering gs. More *** sliding next time.

Thanks to Jerry at BBI Autosport for the shot. He takes great pics.
That is a great pic. I have always said how much fun and how capable these cars can be. You just have to have the nerve to push them.

I was at our local AX event yesterday. Came in 40 out of 81 drivers haven't AX'd in a few years need to get my game back. It took most of the day but I am ready for next time. I never expect to come close to FTD as there are some serious SCCA hardcore guys running with AX dedicated cars but I was quite happy with my time considering. I ran about 3-4 seconds behind on a quite quick 1+ mile course in the upper 50 second range some very nice GT4's once I found the groove. I do miss not having harnesses though. Although FTD was 50.2 seconds even Perry Aidelbaum a veteran SCCA driver couldn't keep up with some of these dedicated cars in a GT4.

Glad your enjoying the virtues of the 964
Old 04-18-2016, 12:15 PM
  #529  
TRAKCAR
Rennlist Member
 
TRAKCAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 29,373
Received 1,621 Likes on 752 Posts
Default

Nice shot

It looks so innocent :-)
Old 04-19-2016, 02:30 PM
  #530  
aceking4u
Instructor
 
aceking4u's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Hi Chris,

I drove a C4 with for the first time before buying my car. On the freeway, there were some bump steers at low speed (60 mph). The owner had a set of H&R Deep Coilovers installed and the car is pretty low. I'm thinking of getting the same Coilovers for the same height and I don't plan on tracking the car. My buddy Teddy (FormulaRX) said your setup would potentially minimize/eliminate the bump steer issue. He gave me a list of items from your build and I was wondering, how much would each item cost and in what priority would you give them (assuming I would do each mod slowly).

993 RS Evo Uprights, RS Tie Rods, 993 Front Coils, Big Red Brakes

Thanks for your help again =)
Old 04-19-2016, 02:46 PM
  #531  
Netbug
Rennlist Member
 
Netbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by aceking4u
Hi Chris,

I drove a C4 with for the first time before buying my car. On the freeway, there were some bump steers at low speed (60 mph). The owner had a set of H&R Deep Coilovers installed and the car is pretty low. I'm thinking of getting the same Coilovers for the same height and I don't plan on tracking the car. My buddy Teddy (FormulaRX) said your setup would potentially minimize/eliminate the bump steer issue. He gave me a list of items from your build and I was wondering, how much would each item cost and in what priority would you give them (assuming I would do each mod slowly).

993 RS Evo Uprights, RS Tie Rods, 993 Front Coils, Big Red Brakes

Thanks for your help again =)
From my understanding none of the 993 RS Evo stuff is needed unless you go really low. Raising up the C4 would fix all the bump steer. Also check all the bushings to make sure they are not toast.
Old 04-19-2016, 02:57 PM
  #532  
BBiAutosport
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
BBiAutosport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Huntington Beach, California
Posts: 4,281
Received 551 Likes on 317 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Spyerx
ACTION SHOT @ Chuckwalla Valley Raceway
All you SoCal 964 guys need to drive these things on track. Come to our next private day!!!

Had a chance to look at my data logs today. I was being a ***** in the corners. There is at least 5 more secs there. Overlay to my GT3 that car is faster everywhere, but I should be able to get similar (near) cornering gs. More *** sliding next time.

Thanks to Jerry at BBI Autosport for the shot. He takes great pics.

Thanks for sharing Chris!!! I have a few more to share later today.

- Jerry
__________________

Bringing Passion, Artistry, Craft to the Porsche Tuning Industry
Southern California's Porsche Performance Tuning, Engine Development,
ECU Software Tuning, Custom Fabrication, Race Preparation & Factory Service Center
Website: www.bbiautosport.com Email: sales@bbiautosport.com Phone: (714) 843-0200
Follow Us On: Facebook & Instagram
Old 04-19-2016, 02:58 PM
  #533  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,567
Received 1,773 Likes on 1,081 Posts
Default

Really low isn't that low. My car isn't slammed, it's low but it is not that low. As soon as you start changing the angle of the steering rack rods relative to the rack and the upright you change the bump steer geometry. Ideally your alignment guy puts the car on a bump steer setup and measures the range of toe over the suspension motion and finds the ideal setup/compromise. This takes time and someone who knows what they are doing.

If your only goal is to solve bump steer, a spacer set of end links for your steering tie rods. Talk to Joey, BBI, or any of the local shops that can do this, ERP makes a set. I saw a set BBI installed on a 964 with stock uprights.

If you want better brakes, better dampers, better overall front geometry look at the other parts.
Old 04-19-2016, 03:05 PM
  #534  
aceking4u
Instructor
 
aceking4u's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Netbug
From my understanding none of the 993 RS Evo stuff is needed unless you go really low. Raising up the C4 would fix all the bump steer. Also check all the bushings to make sure they are not toast.
I plan on doing about 2.25 to 2.5 inch drop. I have a C2 but just used a C4 as the example I experienced. I think the car I drove had about a 2.5 to 3 inch drop.
Old 04-19-2016, 03:07 PM
  #535  
aceking4u
Instructor
 
aceking4u's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Sounds good Chris. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience. Will contact Joey when the time is right.
Old 04-19-2016, 06:55 PM
  #536  
BBiAutosport
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
BBiAutosport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Huntington Beach, California
Posts: 4,281
Received 551 Likes on 317 Posts
Default

Hello Everyone,

Here are more pictures from our private BBi Autosport Private Track Day































- Jerry@BBiAutosport.com
Old 04-19-2016, 11:11 PM
  #537  
mooty
GT3 player par excellence
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
mooty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: san francisco
Posts: 43,385
Received 5,619 Likes on 2,308 Posts
Default

...
Attached Images  
Old 04-19-2016, 11:18 PM
  #538  
TRAKCAR
Rennlist Member
 
TRAKCAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 29,373
Received 1,621 Likes on 752 Posts
Default

I open the bid at a crazy low $50 for the artwork just to get the auction going.
It comes framed, right?
Old 04-19-2016, 11:51 PM
  #539  
mooty
GT3 player par excellence
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
mooty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: san francisco
Posts: 43,385
Received 5,619 Likes on 2,308 Posts
Default

^once chris numbers the prints it will be $150
frame is $100 on top
Old 04-19-2016, 11:55 PM
  #540  
Spyerx
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Spyerx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 16,567
Received 1,773 Likes on 1,081 Posts
Default

Post the others :-) Someone had a hidden talent!


Quick Reply: My 964 C2 Transformation Build Thread



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 11:13 AM.