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I've recently bought a fabulous dark blue (non metallic) 964 C2 with black and burgundy interior. The burgundy is doors, seats & carpet and looks wonderful, far better than I would have ever imagined. Enthusiast owners previously and in good shape but does now need a top end rebuild, new clutch etc so it will be going into the shop shortly...
I'm planning a 964 Cab to wide body Speedster, once I get my 964 where I want her, and that's not quite going to plan so the speedster project might some way of in the future, but I've already found a base to start from that will cost less than £10k and it's not that bad really.
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How bad is the oil leak? Mine is a 90 car and leaks a bit but I just top up the oil every couple of mths. Leak down tests on engine showed it was in rude health and pulls like a train. So you may not need to have it rebuilt. A reseal is also an option at around 2-3k
Paul: love the car, and engine!
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London911, that's a great 964, love the colour combo, don't back date, it will a loss to the brotherhood that is 964 owners.
Make her better than she is now, and keep up the hunt for a poor car to do the back date on.
I'm planning a 964 Cab to wide body Speedster, once I get my 964 where I want her, and that's not quite going to plan so the speedster project might some way of in the future, but I've already found a base to start from that will cost less than £10k and it's not that bad really.
Make her better than she is now, and keep up the hunt for a poor car to do the back date on.
I'm planning a 964 Cab to wide body Speedster, once I get my 964 where I want her, and that's not quite going to plan so the speedster project might some way of in the future, but I've already found a base to start from that will cost less than £10k and it's not that bad really.
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That being said, and responding to the OP, I agree that is a great car and I think you are making the right decision - I wouldn't chop up a nice 964 for a backdate. With your car, it is in beautiful shape and you can do a lot of nice upgrades underneath, and have a great car that is "retro enough" for a fraction of the cost of a backdate, which has increased greatly in the last few years. When mine was done, it was a tired car with panel damage (bodywork done by first owner, I did mechanicals), and a good 964 cost £10k, so it was a different world then.
good luck with everything and look forward to seeing what you end up doing, and seeing you and your car at one of the London meets!
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I'm not usually one to give an opinion on what do do with another's car, but simply wanted to say:
The car looks gorgeous as is. It really does look good on that color combination and set up. It's all your money and time, but were it mine, I'd drive and enjoy!
Cheers all. PS- my brother is in London (Richmond) and is on the hunt for a nice 911. I'm encouraging him to go to a meet and see some of the amazing cars from London Rennlisters! I fear he may just head to Hexagon and go that route. Best/
The car looks gorgeous as is. It really does look good on that color combination and set up. It's all your money and time, but were it mine, I'd drive and enjoy!
Cheers all. PS- my brother is in London (Richmond) and is on the hunt for a nice 911. I'm encouraging him to go to a meet and see some of the amazing cars from London Rennlisters! I fear he may just head to Hexagon and go that route. Best/
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crikey he must have deep pockets. Not sure that is the smart option. Does he want an aircooled car or is he considering all options? 996/997 Turbo seem good value. 997 C2S Gen II. Boxster Spyder etc. If he wants a 964...well at the moment nice ones of those are hard to come by but if he isnt afraid of paying a bit of a premium the maritime 964 RS rep at £54k at JZM would be a nice car I think
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Really appreciate all the comments!
I do love the PS Autoart, PS Automobile, Singer etc cars so will do a backdate also - just from a different donor. Or perhaps I'll win the lottery and just get a Singer :-)
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Funny, I had the same idea of backdating.
After 2 weeks of ownership I love my car so much that I might not backdate anymore...just get an older one :-)
After 2 weeks of ownership I love my car so much that I might not backdate anymore...just get an older one :-)
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Midnight Blue is a great color for these cars. Looks black sometimes, looks purplish sometimes, navy blue at others. Mine also comes with a Linen Interior. Reckon how many Midnight Blue over Linen manual 92-94 C2 Coupes there are in the world?
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Best mod I made to mine was making it more "rumbly" with a cat delete and a cup pipe. That scratched my itch to back date. The exhaust mods even make firing it up in the morning an event.
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Decided on the spec now:
- Top end rebuild
- '89 C4 single mass flywheel & clutch - lighter than the dual mass item but not quite as light as an RS one so a little better drivability (and I live in London)
- Mod to make the clutch lighter
- Engine cleaned, polished, coated, etc and 'dressed' to look similar to the Singer engines...
- Dansk exhaust with 'G pipe'
- Brakes refurbed and painted (black or red?)
- Blistein B16 PSS10 suspension (expensive but wonderful!) with everything refurbed
- Returning flag mirrors & amber front indicators (love them both)
Techart original foglight / brake ducts (a period option)
- Inside a clean, new carpets, and a 370mm black Arbarth steering wheel
- hopefully find an OEM set of Cup 1 to replace replicas
Everyone is right - you can do a lot and have great fun without a backdate. Can't wait to drive post all this! Engine should have 270 to 280bhp and rev nicely, ride height will be RS but suspension set for B road blasts, and interior will retain all patina but with my favourite steering wheel. Roll on summer...
- Top end rebuild
- '89 C4 single mass flywheel & clutch - lighter than the dual mass item but not quite as light as an RS one so a little better drivability (and I live in London)
- Mod to make the clutch lighter
- Engine cleaned, polished, coated, etc and 'dressed' to look similar to the Singer engines...
- Dansk exhaust with 'G pipe'
- Brakes refurbed and painted (black or red?)
- Blistein B16 PSS10 suspension (expensive but wonderful!) with everything refurbed
- Returning flag mirrors & amber front indicators (love them both)
Techart original foglight / brake ducts (a period option)
- Inside a clean, new carpets, and a 370mm black Arbarth steering wheel
- hopefully find an OEM set of Cup 1 to replace replicas
Everyone is right - you can do a lot and have great fun without a backdate. Can't wait to drive post all this! Engine should have 270 to 280bhp and rev nicely, ride height will be RS but suspension set for B road blasts, and interior will retain all patina but with my favourite steering wheel. Roll on summer...
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Decided on the spec now:
- Top end rebuild
- '89 C4 single mass flywheel & clutch - lighter than the dual mass item but not quite as light as an RS one so a little better drivability (and I live in London)
- Mod to make the clutch lighter
- Engine cleaned, polished, coated, etc and 'dressed' to look similar to the Singer engines...
- Dansk exhaust with 'G pipe'
- Brakes refurbed and painted (black or red?)
- Blistein B16 PSS10 suspension (expensive but wonderful!) with everything refurbed
- Returning flag mirrors & amber front indicators (love them both)
Techart original foglight / brake ducts (a period option)
- Inside a clean, new carpets, and a 370mm black Arbarth steering wheel
- hopefully find an OEM set of Cup 1 to replace replicas
Everyone is right - you can do a lot and have great fun without a backdate. Can't wait to drive post all this! Engine should have 270 to 280bhp and rev nicely, ride height will be RS but suspension set for B road blasts, and interior will retain all patina but with my favourite steering wheel. Roll on summer...
- Top end rebuild
- '89 C4 single mass flywheel & clutch - lighter than the dual mass item but not quite as light as an RS one so a little better drivability (and I live in London)
- Mod to make the clutch lighter
- Engine cleaned, polished, coated, etc and 'dressed' to look similar to the Singer engines...
- Dansk exhaust with 'G pipe'
- Brakes refurbed and painted (black or red?)
- Blistein B16 PSS10 suspension (expensive but wonderful!) with everything refurbed
- Returning flag mirrors & amber front indicators (love them both)
Techart original foglight / brake ducts (a period option)
- Inside a clean, new carpets, and a 370mm black Arbarth steering wheel
- hopefully find an OEM set of Cup 1 to replace replicas
Everyone is right - you can do a lot and have great fun without a backdate. Can't wait to drive post all this! Engine should have 270 to 280bhp and rev nicely, ride height will be RS but suspension set for B road blasts, and interior will retain all patina but with my favourite steering wheel. Roll on summer...
A few observations,
- You may wish to go with a long neck G-Pipe as this keeps a similar flow to the original final silencer and also uses the original mounting points.
- Brakes, may I suggest a colour match to your interior. Colour coding always ties in nicely.
- Be aware that PSS10s have a tendency to suffer from corrosion. So applying anti rust coating would be a must. Alternatively KWV3s are highly rated here and have a stainless steel body that won't rust.
- Techart fogs/ ducts. If you ever brake a lens, it's handy to know that the fogs are the same ones found on MK3 Golfs. A good saving on TechArt premium. The ducting will require some modification to bring the pipes through.
- Original Cup1 as I'm sure you are aware are now around the £1K + mark. Because these wheels are made of magnesium they can be prone to crack, bubble paint and need very special attention when refurbishing. As a result a lot of owners store their mag originals and run replicas for daily use.
Anyway enjoy the car and wishing you a smooth engine rebuild with few parts needing replacing.
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Frank,
Are you getting your cup wheels mixed up ? Cups fitted to the RS are magnesium and bonkers money standard ones are alloy and also getting very pricey as you say 1k upwards
Are you getting your cup wheels mixed up ? Cups fitted to the RS are magnesium and bonkers money standard ones are alloy and also getting very pricey as you say 1k upwards
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