Bloose993TT

Just a little.

Cemoto

I can see why you say that but the motor has so much more in the 6GT3, and the hit . . . :-) Base 964 does not have that.

Regards,

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'95 993NB
'96 993NB 3.8
'96 993tt
'04 996GT3
'01 996 Cup (updated), RS motor

cobalt

I don't think Black3.2 knows who he is talking to. I always said the 993 was the melding of the 911 and the 928 culminating in the 996 which was more GT feeling to me. The change from the trailing/swing arm suspension to kinematic was arguably more capable but less thrilling and up to that time true 911 feeling. I still like the later GT3 & turbo variants since there is still something that the engines share both air and water cooled that seems to come through the base models lacked. The GT3's are somewhat reminiscent to the feel I get from my turbo. Although the turbo is still old school in comparison on the street I prefer it more. The 993 Cup was always a car that interested me. I had some friends that tracked one years ago. I haven't seen one in about 10 years now.

I do have to get down that way but we should try to do Camp 928 if I can fit in. I have been neglectful of that car this past year and need a reason to put more time behind the wheel. No GT3 or 964 but I like the GTS. It is a great GT.

We have ways to make them sing LOL

clubrcr

Anthony, I think you'd be foolish to track the 993 and 964 supercups and carerra cups these days, crashing one would be irreplaceable. I wish I had mine back. Those air cooled supercups have been a better investment than the stock market. . These days you can buy the 996 Cups for a song and they are great track cars.

cobalt

No doubt I agree although I have a friend with a couple of 964 cups and he still tracks one of his occasionally. I see many cars for sale but the 993 supercups have seemed to vanish from existence. I might even expect one to show up at a historic race but nothing I have come across. Most likely in a private collection never to be seen again. I agree the 996GT3 cup is a great bang for the buck. Engine builds are a bit costly but you can upgrade to 3.8 steel liners relatively cheaply and have quite a ride. I am still lost in the 90's I can't give up the old trailing arm cars so I had to build my own and don't care if i am the fastest or slowest, I can still have fun with the GT3's with the thrills and visceral feel of the 964.

Tarek307

A little warning, MAKE SURE someone you know or trust takes a look at this car first before you even think of wasting money on a PPI - The car is not in vegas, its here in CA I have seen this car before in my city and it is lets just say a sore sight, the owner is being very vague in his description and not showing clear pics hoping some poor guy will just snap it up and have it shipped to them because surely anyone that sees it in person or sees clear pics of it may vomit all over the place. Being in the car biz i struggle w posting these warnings because of the back lash owners could have against my business name, but this one i just can't let go.

Here is the vin so hopefully someone searching it online sees this
WPOAB096XKS450221
WP0AB096XKS450221
​​​​​​https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/...809248953.html

Vegas993

Saw that yesterday and didn't even bother sharing it, lol.

BLACK3.2

The guys seemed like he had some experience, but then he starts dropping all these cup cars he's tracked and I'm like

To be straight, I was genuinely asking a question. It wasn't rhetorical!

clubrcr

Is Indian Red a PTS, hahaha

sechsgang

EDIT :Already sold.

Trader220

$65k for a 89 C4 with 100k miles on it..... you don't need to PPI the car simply don't bother with it at that price.

Lorenzoh

Trader220

I'd be and others would be a lot more interested. In the case of this car, who cares at that price for this particular car?

Lorenzoh

bweSteve

I thought that was funny too,... but then recall (decades ago in my younger yrs) trying to figure out what Guards Red had to do with Indischrot ....

So maybe he was not that far off. Indischrot, as the German name (& as we see on our Frunk tags as color code L80K),... and it's English interpretation as "Guards Red". "Indisch" as the Royal British & Dutch Military unit (they were the "Guard"),.. and I recall reading that Porsche had linked their red color formula to the uniforms that they had worn back in the mid-late 1800's.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history...h-indisch-army

Of course he probably just put the letter "n" on the end of his shortened "India",.. which this is not the first time I've seen people do that.

Anyway,... I also just found this thread too.... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...uards-red.html

seems PPG actually has two different formulas for the red.

Years ago, when I needed some touch up paint for front end nics in my Guards Red 964, I had to get a paint shop to put a paint camera on various spots on the car where I needed touch up. The formula came up quite different than the Porsche Parts Dept touch up (which was much brighter). Reds are fickle colors, and so many things affect them (from the primer color underneath, to the amount of UV rays have hit it over the years). Not so easy to get the right touch up color.

=Steve