Best Trackday Tyres For 964 are ...
#16
Having said that;
8J F & 10J R fit without issues. Front you can run 225 comfortably or 235 with a bit of fettling. Rears you can go 265 comfortably 275 would be a big ask from what I recall.
8.5J you can run 235 with a bit of fettling, larger wouldn't work IMO, 225 would be a tiny stretch.
I would say 8.5J 235 and 10J 275 would be awesome but would require lots of fettling at the rear.
Realistically 225 8J and 265 9J is perfect for easy fitting with no stretch or bulging and maximum contact patch.
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On the 964RS I'd probably start with the Dunlop 03G due to the relatively stiff sidewall construction. The Toyo R888 is also a safe choice as you well know. Regards.
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HOLY MULTIQUOTE BATMAN !
Agreed , the cups are fantastic but getting so hard to find here now . its very frustrating .
I usually use toyos but was interested if something else was available to try now .
I have never come across the Nito , ill look into it cheers
Yes I am thinking about tyres for spa , I think im going to get BAT to take out some wheels for me , great idea thank you .
Gents , this is correct I believe Nito is not legal for uk
thanks all the same though
Thanks for the kind words , I think im going for the dunlops , they sound great .
I have lost your number , would you be able to call me please at your convenience one day ? I would like to ask you a question please
Interesting , have never tried them , thanks
I think im going for the Dunlops , like you say will be more economical in the long run .
great question , you beat me to it !
Thanks again matey
great info , thanks
maestro !
hope you are well .
im back in the uk for a couple of days then back in january .
if "d" sells me my 993 back , i have a SMALL project id like to discuss with you please !
thanks all for the advice , I think im going to try and get a set of the dunlops
With mine having to be road legal, I've settled on Toyo R888s and have been very happy with these for 3 or 4 years now. I've tried Mich PS cups and agree that they are better on track in dry conditions. You can do longer stints than the Toyos before they go off. However, it is just about impossible to now get them in the UK in 17 inch fitment so they're no longer part of the equation for me.
I usually use toyos but was interested if something else was available to try now .
I run Toyo 888's too and have found them pretty consistent once up to temp/pressure.
I also run Yoko 48's, and find they grip less than the 888's .... but having said that I've not had as much running on them.
I presume you're asking re what to use for Spa next year? If so, you may like to know that Bookatrack will, for a fee, carry a spare set of wheels/tyres for you, so you could run on road wheels and change at the track!
I also run Yoko 48's, and find they grip less than the 888's .... but having said that I've not had as much running on them.
I presume you're asking re what to use for Spa next year? If so, you may like to know that Bookatrack will, for a fee, carry a spare set of wheels/tyres for you, so you could run on road wheels and change at the track!
I dont think they are E marked, so not street legal in the UK, and shipping from the US rules them out anyway I would have thought
Federal FZ or Silverstone FTZ RR have very good reviews as direct rivals to 888's but there dont seem to be a lot of suppliers about, though Demon Tweeks sell both IIRC
Federal FZ or Silverstone FTZ RR have very good reviews as direct rivals to 888's but there dont seem to be a lot of suppliers about, though Demon Tweeks sell both IIRC
thanks all the same though
Hi Baf , I used to use Toyo R888 , have switched to Dunlop DZ03Gs , R1 ( soft ) compound on fronts and H1 ( hard) compound on rears . Datalogger shows they pull 1.2G lateral ,for me , so a good driver like you should get more
Might not be quite as grippy ( or as expensive) as MPSCs , and not as cheap as Toyos
Might not be quite as grippy ( or as expensive) as MPSCs , and not as cheap as Toyos
I have lost your number , would you be able to call me please at your convenience one day ? I would like to ask you a question please
I would also put the "ultra sticky" pure street tires, like the Bridgestone RE11 and the Yokohama AD08 into the mix. The Hankook RS3, Dunlop Star Specs and Toyo R1R also fall into this category, though I don't have experience with them like I do with the RE11 and AD08.
Fundemantely it's all about what ride height and geometry you are running that will determine what fits.
Having said that;
8J F & 10J R fit without issues. Front you can run 225 comfortably or 235 with a bit of fettling. Rears you can go 265 comfortably 275 would be a big ask from what I recall.
8.5J you can run 235 with a bit of fettling, larger wouldn't work IMO, 225 would be a tiny stretch.
I would say 8.5J 235 and 10J 275 would be awesome but would require lots of fettling at the rear.
Realistically 225 8J and 265 9J is perfect for easy fitting with no stretch or bulging and maximum contact patch.
Having said that;
8J F & 10J R fit without issues. Front you can run 225 comfortably or 235 with a bit of fettling. Rears you can go 265 comfortably 275 would be a big ask from what I recall.
8.5J you can run 235 with a bit of fettling, larger wouldn't work IMO, 225 would be a tiny stretch.
I would say 8.5J 235 and 10J 275 would be awesome but would require lots of fettling at the rear.
Realistically 225 8J and 265 9J is perfect for easy fitting with no stretch or bulging and maximum contact patch.
hope you are well .
im back in the uk for a couple of days then back in january .
if "d" sells me my 993 back , i have a SMALL project id like to discuss with you please !
thanks all for the advice , I think im going to try and get a set of the dunlops
#19
Ran R-888's last year and switched to the NT-01's this year. From my experience, the NT-01 is a better tire all around; better grip, better durability and can tolerate longer, hotter sessions. And they are a bit less noisey driving to and from the track. They just seemed to work better for me and my car. Very happy with the switch and will "stick" with the NT-01's.
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#20
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Pzero Corsa or MPSC if you can find the sizes you need. Unfortunately 205/50 17's have become impossible to find so it depends if the country you are in allows you to use 225's at the front.
#21
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Bumping this thread looking for the best street legal 18” track tires.
The Bridgestone RE 71R’s we’re incredible, but they were short lived on the track, and now NLA.
Last summer I ran the entire season on a set of Dunlop Direzza III’s. Not quite as grippy as the RE 71R’s, but darn good and they lasted three times as long. But if I can knock off two seconds, I’m fine with burning through two sets of tires during the season.
I’ve been running 265 in back and 225 up front, but thinking about moving up to 285/30 in back and 235/40 up front (there’s no room for 245’s without a different wheel).
I may stick with the Dunlops, or have a go with the Falken Azenis RT660’s. Any feedback on these tires would be helpful. There don’t appear to be many other options available in this size.
Yokohama Advan AD08R appears to another option. A bit spendy, but I don’t know much about that tire.
Thanks in advance,
The Bridgestone RE 71R’s we’re incredible, but they were short lived on the track, and now NLA.
Last summer I ran the entire season on a set of Dunlop Direzza III’s. Not quite as grippy as the RE 71R’s, but darn good and they lasted three times as long. But if I can knock off two seconds, I’m fine with burning through two sets of tires during the season.
I’ve been running 265 in back and 225 up front, but thinking about moving up to 285/30 in back and 235/40 up front (there’s no room for 245’s without a different wheel).
I may stick with the Dunlops, or have a go with the Falken Azenis RT660’s. Any feedback on these tires would be helpful. There don’t appear to be many other options available in this size.
Yokohama Advan AD08R appears to another option. A bit spendy, but I don’t know much about that tire.
Thanks in advance,
#22
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Conti’s new “extreme contact force” looks promising as a street/track tire (more track than street).
I always prefer the Nitto NT-01’s. They wear like iron, last 50% as good as the 1st, though not so much for rain duty & a bit noisey on the street if that matters to you…
I always prefer the Nitto NT-01’s. They wear like iron, last 50% as good as the 1st, though not so much for rain duty & a bit noisey on the street if that matters to you…
Last edited by Meatball964; 03-27-2022 at 05:32 PM.
#23
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Thanks for your reply. Agree, the new Conti’s Force look promising (and a lot like the old RE 71R’s). Unfortunately I don’t see any 225/40 or 235/40 available for the front tires for the Conti Force. I’ll have to have a look at the Nitto’s. I don’t mind tire noise, the car is plain loud. Tire Rack doesn’t carry them, so I need to expand my horizons. Are the Nitto’s sticky? I’m willing to sacrifice durability for 20 good heat cycles of grip. This will probably be my last season running street tires on the track.
#24
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NT-01’s are sticky, not quite Hoosier sticky but you could drive the Nittos to/from the track. Very popular tire amongst the DE crowd.
I ran them on my 993 at the track for years. Try “Discount Tire” for stock.
I ran them on my 993 at the track for years. Try “Discount Tire” for stock.
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cbracerx (03-28-2022)
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Thanks again, S2K993, I need to give them a try. I can’t wait to get out on the track with a fresh set of tires!
#26
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I'm surprised no one mentions the Pirelli Trofeo. Outstanding tire on track an E-marked for road use. Available in many sizes. Used them for many years and it's probably the quickest tyre around.
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PAOLOP (03-28-2022)
#27
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Bumping this thread looking for the best street legal 18” track tires.
The Bridgestone RE 71R’s we’re incredible, but they were short lived on the track, and now NLA.
Last summer I ran the entire season on a set of Dunlop Direzza III’s. Not quite as grippy as the RE 71R’s, but darn good and they lasted three times as long. But if I can knock off two seconds, I’m fine with burning through two sets of tires during the season.
I’ve been running 265 in back and 225 up front, but thinking about moving up to 285/30 in back and 235/40 up front (there’s no room for 245’s without a different wheel).
I may stick with the Dunlops, or have a go with the Falken Azenis RT660’s. Any feedback on these tires would be helpful. There don’t appear to be many other options available in this size.
Yokohama Advan AD08R appears to another option. A bit spendy, but I don’t know much about that tire.
Thanks in advance,
The Bridgestone RE 71R’s we’re incredible, but they were short lived on the track, and now NLA.
Last summer I ran the entire season on a set of Dunlop Direzza III’s. Not quite as grippy as the RE 71R’s, but darn good and they lasted three times as long. But if I can knock off two seconds, I’m fine with burning through two sets of tires during the season.
I’ve been running 265 in back and 225 up front, but thinking about moving up to 285/30 in back and 235/40 up front (there’s no room for 245’s without a different wheel).
I may stick with the Dunlops, or have a go with the Falken Azenis RT660’s. Any feedback on these tires would be helpful. There don’t appear to be many other options available in this size.
Yokohama Advan AD08R appears to another option. A bit spendy, but I don’t know much about that tire.
Thanks in advance,
#28
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For what it's worth the original Cup2 is no longer available in this size. The Cup 2 "Track Connect" is, but is slightly less sticky than the original (which is a real shame). It's still overall a pretty good tire. I have a couple of Autox's on them and one track weekend, and they've done alright so far.
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koenig_roland (03-30-2022)
#29
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Great feedback, thank you all.
The Cup2 Connect is only available in 295/30/18, not 285/30/18. 295 is more than I need, and will upset the balance given I’m planning on running 235 up front. I wish I could shove 245’s up front, but it’s not happening without a new set of wheels. There do appear to be more choices in 295 vs. 285…
The Cup2 Connect is rated 240, so perhaps not as sticky, and the price is just silly. They’re $400 more than the Dunlops and $450 more than the Falken Azenis.
The Cup2 Connect is only available in 295/30/18, not 285/30/18. 295 is more than I need, and will upset the balance given I’m planning on running 235 up front. I wish I could shove 245’s up front, but it’s not happening without a new set of wheels. There do appear to be more choices in 295 vs. 285…
The Cup2 Connect is rated 240, so perhaps not as sticky, and the price is just silly. They’re $400 more than the Dunlops and $450 more than the Falken Azenis.