wtdoom

Any ideas gents ?
Looking for super sticky ROAD LEGAL tyres in 17's , Toyo , Cups or Kumho ?

Marc Shaw

Depends on level of experience and track conditions.

Marc

wtdoom

experience very high and ideal conditions please .

KaiB

R6's...given the above, if the experience is that "high" and the car is setup properly for them. We drive to the limit of adhesion regardless of which shoes are on it, correct?

wtdoom

obviously sometimes beyond too

I should have said , road legal in europe ( sorry )

boxsey911

With mine having to be road legal, I've settled on Toyo R888s and have been very happy with these for 3 or 4 years now. I've tried Mich PS cups and agree that they are better on track in dry conditions. You can do longer stints than the Toyos before they go off. However, it is just about impossible to now get them in the UK in 17 inch fitment so they're no longer part of the equation for me.

KaiB

Can ya'll source the Nitto NT-01? Helluva tire, it is. I've not driven it, but know many who have.

I have experience with the Dunlop Star Spec Z1 and can absolutely recomment it...but I burned through a set in four days as my skills came back.

Cheeksyboy

I run Toyo 888's too and have found them pretty consistent once up to temp/pressure.

I also run Yoko 48's, and find they grip less than the 888's .... but having said that I've not had as much running on them.

I presume you're asking re what to use for Spa next year? If so, you may like to know that Bookatrack will, for a fee, carry a spare set of wheels/tyres for you, so you could run on road wheels and change at the track!

sundog

I run the Nitto NT-01. It is street legal, and a very good track tire. You will need to have a lot of camber to keep from wearing them unevenly, as they stick very well.

freedman

I dont think they are E marked, so not street legal in the UK, and shipping from the US rules them out anyway I would have thought

Federal FZ or Silverstone FTZ RR have very good reviews as direct rivals to 888's but there dont seem to be a lot of suppliers about, though Demon Tweeks sell both IIRC

oldtimer

Hi Baf , I used to use Toyo R888 , have switched to Dunlop DZ03Gs , R1 ( soft ) compound on fronts and H1 ( hard) compound on rears . Datalogger shows they pull 1.2G lateral ,for me , so a good driver like you should get more

Might not be quite as grippy ( or as expensive) as MPSCs , and not as cheap as Toyos

ja78911sc

I have noticed several Toyo R888's. Are the Toyo RA1's available in the UK?

They were discontinued and brought back a couple of years ago in the US. They are consistent up until you cord the tire. I do not shave and get 50 plus heat cycles.

freedman

Like the Nitto's looks like you can get them through Vivid racing, but shippping makes it ridiculously expensive

V

Correct, NT01's are not E marked thus not approved for road use in Europe. But in reality, does this really matter? I havn't heard of anyone getting stopped on the road or even stopped at a DE just for checking the brand of tire... IMHO it doesn't matter and as long as the thread is within spec, I don't think anyone will neither notice nor care. And shipping is actually not that bad if you buy them in the US and ship them using one of the shipping carriers.. Especially not if you buy tires for a season or two at the same time, or if you buy tires together with one or two guys. Might be worth it in the end since NT01 seems to be by far the best value tire out there.


Other than that, here are some options:


NT01: See discussion above. Are you running 17's or 18's? If 17's then they are "only" available in 255 for the rear since the 275 will bulge on a 9" rim. If you are running 9.5" it might work though..

r888: Readily available in all sizes. Extremely loud when they start to wear. E-approved, reasonable value.

MPSC: Great dry grip. Not as good in the wet as r888 or NT01. Expensive but not a big difference compared to r888. Perfect sizing for 18's 225/265.

MPSS: Should be considered as well for the not so hardcore DE guy. Dry grip is worse than the above but way better than PS2s. Great wet grip. Lasts longer than any of the above and is cheaper than both PS2s and MPSCs (and r888). Perfect sizing for 18's 225/265. This setup is particularily interesting if you have a long way to drive to the track and you don't have a trailer or you don't fancy changing wheels every now and then.

I'm not too familiar with the Dunlops/Yoko/Feredal so I'll pass on commenting those. The new Pirellis and and couple of the other newly developed compounds are only available in 19's or larger.

When we are discussing tires, what's considered to be the best size wheels for the NB 964 on the track?

Front 8 or 8.5 x 18 and rear 9.5 or 10 x 18?

And what are the largest tires you can fit?

Front 225 or 235 and rear 265 or 275?


Have a great weekend

Earlydays

I would also put the "ultra sticky" pure street tires, like the Bridgestone RE11 and the Yokohama AD08 into the mix. The Hankook RS3, Dunlop Star Specs and Toyo R1R also fall into this category, though I don't have experience with them like I do with the RE11 and AD08.