Longhood Friday: 964 backdates and other retro ideas
#811
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Chimera - Dissecting a monster of a wide-body 964
http://www.excellence-mag.com/issues...a#.VqkCLFL-m6k
http://www.excellence-mag.com/issues...a#.VqkCLFL-m6k
#813
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Wasn't this a Pelican build?
#814
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Yes, linked in post #786 on this thread.
Pics of this car had been posted previously but I had never seen the build thread.
964 Turbo with 934 style fender extensions.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...d-965-rsr.html
964 Turbo with 934 style fender extensions.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...d-965-rsr.html
#815
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I don't need two wipers....
Lightweight and retro = single wiper.
D Zug has done it:
JohnJL has done it (over at Pelican)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...nvolved-8.html
Lightweight and retro = single wiper.
D Zug has done it:
JohnJL has done it (over at Pelican)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...nvolved-8.html
Here's another rabbit-hole project I am building into her.. I have seen a few threads on lightening the existing wiper and linkages, and mention of the use of a 944 rear motor (NLA) and I have seen those 79-80 Sciroccos with single wipers.
The route I am trying has the goals of 1. passing inspection, 2. keeping my wind shield clean in light rain for limited time (ie not expected to deal with huge downpours, ice or now) and 3. lightweight and 4. accomodate a single wiper in fitting in the the streamlining I have done on the rest of the car.
I settled on using a rear wiper motor from a Jeep, across their range from the 90's through the 00's. Interestingly it arrived and is a Valeo unit. So before anyone gets all insulted for putting Jeep parts on a Porsche, its the same manufacturer that makes many of our alternators and regulators.
THe unit is very small and lightweight. WHen I get a chance I will dig up the original motor and linkage and compare the weights.
The dimple the wiper arm sticks through the body fits the Valeo unit perfectly. Of course I have 2 of the dimples to accommodate the original wipers so having confirmed there is plenty of room under the dash for a bracket and the motor, I plan on cutting out both dimples and relocating one of them to the center of the car. Then patching in the two old arm hole.
The route I am trying has the goals of 1. passing inspection, 2. keeping my wind shield clean in light rain for limited time (ie not expected to deal with huge downpours, ice or now) and 3. lightweight and 4. accomodate a single wiper in fitting in the the streamlining I have done on the rest of the car.
I settled on using a rear wiper motor from a Jeep, across their range from the 90's through the 00's. Interestingly it arrived and is a Valeo unit. So before anyone gets all insulted for putting Jeep parts on a Porsche, its the same manufacturer that makes many of our alternators and regulators.
THe unit is very small and lightweight. WHen I get a chance I will dig up the original motor and linkage and compare the weights.
The dimple the wiper arm sticks through the body fits the Valeo unit perfectly. Of course I have 2 of the dimples to accommodate the original wipers so having confirmed there is plenty of room under the dash for a bracket and the motor, I plan on cutting out both dimples and relocating one of them to the center of the car. Then patching in the two old arm hole.
I weighed up the OEM motor, linkage, and wiper arms and got 4.08kgs.
The new unit weighs 1.08kgs and the arm and wiper 246g so 1.33 kgs altogether.
So that's 2.75 kgs or 6 lbs savings up relatively high.
The wiper motor cost $61, and I am estimating ~6 hours of bodywork involved (removing the old "dimples" and patching them in, fabricating a bracket for the new motor.
The new unit weighs 1.08kgs and the arm and wiper 246g so 1.33 kgs altogether.
So that's 2.75 kgs or 6 lbs savings up relatively high.
The wiper motor cost $61, and I am estimating ~6 hours of bodywork involved (removing the old "dimples" and patching them in, fabricating a bracket for the new motor.
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Chimera - Dissecting a monster of a wide-body 964
http://www.excellence-mag.com/issues...a#.VqkCLFL-m6k
http://www.excellence-mag.com/issues...a#.VqkCLFL-m6k
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#820
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Forget Longhoods, now 964 are being backdated 356 style!
Emory on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EmoryMotorsports/
3D scanning 356 and 964
Emory on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EmoryMotorsports/
3D scanning 356 and 964
Detail shots of the #356C4S chassis merge. We 3D scanned the 964 suspension points, tunnel, rear seat area etc and then scanned the 356 chassis to determine merge zones. Under the front hood the only giveaway will be the strut towers poking through the inner sidewalls. Once both body's were cut and the 964 was shortened myself and @cowboydanger started the sheet metal blending between bodies. Now we have a fairly seamless integration that once finished off will be hard to determine what has been done. And no... The blue tie downs aren't permanent. Note the 2.6L 4cyl 911 engine, G64 Trans and 996TT front diff will blend for a unique 356 power plants.
Not your typical 356 belly... Today we got the mock up engine and trans back in after all the suspension and chassis merging was completed. 356 + 964C4 + 996tt = #356C4S Wrap up the rear engine mounts the next couple days and then it's time to build the roll cage and finish off exterior body.
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#824
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RUF brought out two 964-based impact bumper backdates at Geneva. One of them features a 4.2l, 525hp, water-cooled flat-6 and an extended wheelbase for added stability.
http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911/174...ange-in-geneva
http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911/174...ange-in-geneva
#825
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^^^^^^^^
Totally unexpected! Wow.
Check out the video of their Geneva display, see that big carbon fiber body panel (roof to rear fenders)
https://www.facebook.com/RUF.Automobile.GmbH
RUF SCR 4.2
Today at RUF Automobile we are manufacturing with advanced RUF technology a RUF Twin turbo six-cylinder boxer engine with all the attributes of a classic air cooled engine. The twin turbo engine draws from 3.6 liters displacement no less than 590 hp at 6800 rpm and 720 Nm of torque. As a tool to keep the weight under 1200 kg we use a complete Carbon skin, bringing not only the weight down but increasing the rigidity of the chassis, reinforced with the traditional RUF IRC. The Carbon Kevlar prepregs – cured in autoclave at high pressure (six bars) and high temperatures (120 C) under controlled cure cycles. The result of such a process is an extremely light and strong structure. An aeronautical process where all cycles are well controlled and recorded bringing as a result constant quality of the components. The lightweight carbon body, whereby the center of gravity is lowered increases the potential cornering speeds of the Ultimate. Rear-wheel drive and a traditional H-pattern transmission complete the classic sports car feeling.
Totally unexpected! Wow.
Check out the video of their Geneva display, see that big carbon fiber body panel (roof to rear fenders)
https://www.facebook.com/RUF.Automobile.GmbH
RUF SCR 4.2
Today at RUF Automobile we are manufacturing with advanced RUF technology a RUF Twin turbo six-cylinder boxer engine with all the attributes of a classic air cooled engine. The twin turbo engine draws from 3.6 liters displacement no less than 590 hp at 6800 rpm and 720 Nm of torque. As a tool to keep the weight under 1200 kg we use a complete Carbon skin, bringing not only the weight down but increasing the rigidity of the chassis, reinforced with the traditional RUF IRC. The Carbon Kevlar prepregs – cured in autoclave at high pressure (six bars) and high temperatures (120 C) under controlled cure cycles. The result of such a process is an extremely light and strong structure. An aeronautical process where all cycles are well controlled and recorded bringing as a result constant quality of the components. The lightweight carbon body, whereby the center of gravity is lowered increases the potential cornering speeds of the Ultimate. Rear-wheel drive and a traditional H-pattern transmission complete the classic sports car feeling.
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