My 964 weight!
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More focused on stiffness and suspension now as w 3.8 and less wight the car feels almost brutal.
It would weigh a little less of you took some oil out... lol.
It just looks mega. Love all the touches, definitely something very special to drive.
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^^ wowzer Gus so 1072 kg !? that's another 100kg off my weight ... is that CF doors?
AHA!
AHA!
GUS: I have pulled and replaced all removable body parts with fiberglass. Front fenders, nose, doors, roof, rear deck and rear bumper. Replaced seats with PP. Of course a lot of other smaller stuff has been removed as I have worked on car.
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Yes, dropping the metal doors and glass did the trick. I was surprised at how heavy the doors really are. I did add back extra side support and a full cross brace under the dash to the roll bar set up I have. But still not as heavy as the doors are. I might say that the water tight feature has somewhat gone south in a rain though.
I was really pleased at how well we were able to balance the corners -
I was really pleased at how well we were able to balance the corners -
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HI Tjb ... those are early 90s aftermarket from Japan I think ... true RS seat shape but in Kevlar.
I am having some made in CF for the other car locally as I found a mould.
I am having some made in CF for the other car locally as I found a mould.
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for those who has rs carpet. at least on the rear shelf. did you remove original sound proofing material and put new stuff in? I know the old stuff weights a lot. So getting rid of them makes sense. does it balance out the weight saving by putting dynamat or the like back in ?
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for those who has rs carpet. at least on the rear shelf. did you remove original sound proofing material and put new stuff in? I know the old stuff weights a lot. So getting rid of them makes sense. does it balance out the weight saving by putting dynamat or the like back in ?
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Can someone please tell me a source for CF doors? high quality of course. I just bought bonnet and rear deck-lid from bühler carbon in full carbon and would also give well mad CF doors (with orig. glas frame) a try.
I am down to 1230 with an empty fuel tank and with everything in steel and as a C4. With the CF stuff from marcus, i am down to 1215kg. Next would be electrical steering...
I am down to 1230 with an empty fuel tank and with everything in steel and as a C4. With the CF stuff from marcus, i am down to 1215kg. Next would be electrical steering...
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for those who has rs carpet. at least on the rear shelf. did you remove original sound proofing material and put new stuff in? I know the old stuff weights a lot. So getting rid of them makes sense. does it balance out the weight saving by putting dynamat or the like back in ?
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DP Motorsports?
http://www.dp-motorsport.de/31.html?...336&product=49
Here's a couple pics of their doors from a previous project. Drooling...
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Looks super sexy with the flush rear window! Bet the sound is awesome too!
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Speaking of light weight...
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http://www.dp-motorsport.de/31.html?...336&product=49
dp11 Lightweight door for original window frame
Lightweight door for original window frame
made of fibreglass or carbon
f. Porsche* 911 - 964 - 993 for original aluminium frame.
We also offer the fitting windows made of tempered plexiglass in clear and green, sliding window optional.
Art.No. dp11-R464GF - L figreglass
Art.No. dp11-R465GF - R fibreglass
Art.No. dp11-R464CA - L carbon
Art.No. dp11-R465CA - R fcarbon
Lightweight door for original window frame
made of fibreglass or carbon
f. Porsche* 911 - 964 - 993 for original aluminium frame.
We also offer the fitting windows made of tempered plexiglass in clear and green, sliding window optional.
Art.No. dp11-R464GF - L figreglass
Art.No. dp11-R465GF - R fibreglass
Art.No. dp11-R464CA - L carbon
Art.No. dp11-R465CA - R fcarbon
Looks super sexy with the flush rear window! Bet the sound is awesome too!
Speaking of light weight...
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I 2nd DP Motorsport, used their carbon roof on a work project and thought it was a very good quality part
Gus, HiWind and Koenig_R keep living the lightweight dream![Cool](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
My lightweight crusade has taken a back seat for now, I'm enjoying reading about your adventures so keep it coming
Gus, HiWind and Koenig_R keep living the lightweight dream
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My lightweight crusade has taken a back seat for now, I'm enjoying reading about your adventures so keep it coming
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AHab! Welcome back .. please post some redacted pics from 'a work project' ![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Problem for me is the risk of injury with a front cage car on the road seems too high
... so I can't do the doors.
My plan: Sunroof delete next then steering rack, CF parts where I can make them (tunnel cover, fuel cover etc.. )
..then adding weight (rear cage). Can I make it to 1100 ex fuel (current 1165kg)?
ps - what's that rear flush window do aero wise? less noise? Lighter?
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Problem for me is the risk of injury with a front cage car on the road seems too high
... so I can't do the doors.
My plan: Sunroof delete next then steering rack, CF parts where I can make them (tunnel cover, fuel cover etc.. )
..then adding weight (rear cage). Can I make it to 1100 ex fuel (current 1165kg)?
ps - what's that rear flush window do aero wise? less noise? Lighter?
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Definitely less weight, more sound (U.S. doesn't get GT3 RS Plexi rear windows and screen on like ROW gets...).
Originalgewicht: ca. 7100 g (Glas) - Gewicht: ca. 2300 g (Plexi) = ~5 KG savings.
http://www.federleichte-elfer.de/dp6...eibe-1503.html
Originalgewicht: ca. 7100 g (Glas) - Gewicht: ca. 2300 g (Plexi) = ~5 KG savings.
http://www.federleichte-elfer.de/dp6...eibe-1503.html
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