Notices
964 Forum 1989-1994
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Air Conditioner advice for my 964 C2

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-08-2012, 12:56 PM
  #1  
smc911c2
Track Day
Thread Starter
 
smc911c2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Pennsylavania
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Air Conditioner advice for my 964 C2

My 1992 air conditioner was blowing warm air. The system was converted to R134 before I got the car about 8 years ago. I have had to recharge the system about 3 times since I got it. I took it to my mechanic and he recharged the system and it was blowing cold air. A week later, when I used the AC, it did not blow cold air. Took it back and he recharged again, waited a couple of hours and saw that the freon was leaking out of the cars drain hole, the drain that the condensation comes oiut from. He had put in dye to trace leakage. He is mainly a BMW guy and is not an AC expert, but feels that the evaporator core is bad and needs replaced. Part is over $700 and 11 hours to do. I don't feel it is worth the cost since I don't use the AC much and don't want the dash removed to get to the core. The car is in perfect shape with only about 30K miles. Any advice other then to not repair the AC.

Mike
1992 964 C2, 30,000 miles
Old 07-08-2012, 01:25 PM
  #2  
Vandit
Nordschleife Master
 
Vandit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 5,614
Likes: 0
Received 47 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Evaporator replacement DIY
http://p-car.com/diy/ac/

Replacement evaporator
http://www.griffiths.com/shop/index....1c23934a25ded9
Old 07-08-2012, 01:55 PM
  #3  
ToreB
Rennlist Member
 
ToreB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 2,415
Received 376 Likes on 238 Posts
Default

Evaporator leaks are sadly often seen, especially in the 993. My mech has done it several times, and did it in 10 hours.
Good luck.
Cheers,
Old 07-09-2012, 12:58 AM
  #4  
stevepaa
Rennlist Member
 
stevepaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: san jose california
Posts: 1,350
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

You don't remove the dash to fix it. It is all in the front hood area. not that hard, just takes some patience.
Old 07-09-2012, 09:37 PM
  #5  
smc911c2
Track Day
Thread Starter
 
smc911c2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Pennsylavania
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks Vandit for the links. If I decide to have it done it will be very helpful. I am afraid it is beyond my skill level but my mechanic will be able to use these to cut down on the time it takes him.
Old 07-10-2012, 07:27 AM
  #6  
newsboy
Rennlist Member
 
newsboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cape Cod, Ma
Posts: 870
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

I had a similar situation. Filled with R-12, blew cold air for a day, then nothing. It turned out to be a leaking condenser. Not hard to replace(driver's side front wheel well). Might want to make sure, it's not this, although, Freon coming from the condensate drain, suggests evaporator.
Old 07-11-2012, 07:07 PM
  #7  
kos11-12
Three Wheelin'
 
kos11-12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London UK & Paris FR
Posts: 1,699
Received 23 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

Change my evaporator and valve a few years ago, I didn't both the parts from Porsche , it was nearly 5 Time cheaper....
Old 08-24-2016, 10:34 PM
  #8  
get some
Rennlist Member
 
get some's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Corona, CA or Boise, ID...depends on the mood
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Noticed my a/c wasn't cool, went in for a check. They 'did their thing' and ultimately re-charged the system and when ready to leave the shop I turned the a/c on and 'the refrigerant' spewed out thru the vent system into the cabin...cough-cough. I assume the evaporator and/or expansion valve are to blame. Thoughts? Thanks.
Old 08-24-2016, 10:54 PM
  #9  
abarthguy
Three Wheelin'
 
abarthguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sunny SoCal
Posts: 1,523
Received 283 Likes on 173 Posts
Default

Replacement evaporator
http://www.griffiths.com/shop/index....1c23934a25ded9

Local AC shop did mine for $1k labor plust the Griffiths parts. I stayed with R12 and the system works GREAT !
Old 08-25-2016, 11:43 PM
  #10  
Alan 91 C2
Racer
 
Alan 91 C2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Toccoa, GA
Posts: 456
Received 38 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

I have replaced the evaporator, not fun, in my 1991 C2. Currently have a leaking hose in the engine compartment. But got to have A/C.
Old 08-26-2016, 12:40 PM
  #11  
creaturecat
Burning Brakes
 
creaturecat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Vancouver B C
Posts: 1,057
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

2800 plus parts to replace here. will only use Porsche parts.
bottom line around 4000 bucks. seems like highway robbery to me.
Old 08-26-2016, 03:07 PM
  #12  
540964
Racer
 
540964's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Detroit
Posts: 280
Received 10 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

A big job. I completely rebuilt the system last winter. New evaporator, expansion valve, receiver dryer, condenser, compressor. Removed and flushed/cleaned all lines. I replaced the rubber hoses in the engine bay a few years ago because of leakage so those are reused. All new o-rings at every connection. I have no idea how many hours i worked on it, was a long project. When the weather was hot enough I adjusted the R12 charge and the system worked great for an hour or so then began to blow warm air. That fault was traced to the evaporator sensor location. The original spot in center of evaporator seemed to be the warmest spot on the coil so the compressor would not cycle to keep the coil ice free. I found an old Rennlist post that outlined moving the sensor to a lower spot on the evaporator coil and that solved the issue, the compressor now cycles as it should and the coil does not freeze. On 90 degree day I'm getting approx 50 degree discharge temperature, not as cold as I had hoped for but much better than before. By the way the evaporator I used is the Griffin serpentine, nice kit.

Last edited by 540964; 08-26-2016 at 03:10 PM. Reason: Added info
The following users liked this post:
TexasPorschelover (07-26-2020)
Old 07-26-2020, 01:47 PM
  #13  
jimholden
Intermediate
 
jimholden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Naples fl
Posts: 25
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Mike. Ac is a pain. My son Mike 1990c2 built a swamp cooler to make a trip in really hot weather to a rally. Cooler full of ice. Hole in top for a cheap 12 v fan. Voila Redneck ac.
Old 07-26-2020, 06:07 PM
  #14  
jadski
Rennlist Member
 
jadski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 160
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Anyone with actual experience with the electric AC conversion?

https://www.classicretrofit.com/coll...r-conditioning

It seems like if you are going to spend 3-4K on a complete overhaul, this could potentially be a good option.

Mine needs an overhaul, but I have still been trying to figure out best route to go
Old 07-26-2020, 09:19 PM
  #15  
spartansix
Rennlist Member
 
spartansix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Fairfield County, CT
Posts: 1,306
Received 380 Likes on 223 Posts
Default

There's another thread here on the electric AC conversion, but the bottom line is it looks like it works well but is still limited by its reliance on the 964 suitcase fans and evaporator.
It's also a fair bit more expensive for most people than it is to get your existing AC working, especially if you follow their advice to upgrade your alternator and replace your evaporator at the same time.
If we've learned anything from this thread, it's that a complete overhaul probably doesn't gain you all that much (a few degrees in vent temperatures) vs. just having a reasonably leak free stock system.


Quick Reply: Air Conditioner advice for my 964 C2



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:25 PM.