ideola

Back by popular demand!
The BMW boys are hounding me now, and I've gotten some more inquiries from 911 and 944 guys, so we're doing another round. Also, Stage8 is discontinuing their drop ship program, so moving forward, we'll only be able to get these in bulk orders.

For those that missed it the first two times around, the group buy pricing provides you with a whopping 25% discount off of MSRP. We need to have a minimum of 10 orders to proceed. NOTE: These items are NOT in stock at my house(!) OR at Stage8, they are BUILT TO ORDER. I will be placing orders in batches as they come in. Once I have enough orders to place a batch, you can expect a minimum of 3 weeks lead time for production, shipping (from Cali to me), and distribution (from me to you). The group buy will run from now through the end of September.

Pricing
Pricing varies by application, so please check the application guide.
MSRP ranges from $53-$118 depending on quantity and size of bolts.
Group Buy discount = 25% off MSRP
Shipping*: US = $6; Canada = $12.45; ROW = $14.45
*Note: Shipping is via USPS priority mail small flat rate box. We can fit up to two full sets in one box; add'l quantities will result in slightly higher shipping costs.

Ordering
I have set up a special application guide and group buy ordering page on my website:
To order => Ideola's Garage: Stage8 Fasteners for Porsches - Special Group Buy Pricing
Please order through this page if possible. Otherwise, send me a PM with the details of your order and I will invoice you via paypal.

Specifications
• Bolts Are Aircraft Quality Grade 12.9 – 4130 Alloy Steel
• Retainers are 5052-H32 Polished Aluminum
• Snap Rings & Clips Are Spring Steel

Background & Product Details
For those that missed the first two rounds, here is a repeat of the details. I worked with Stage8 to develop a locking CV bolt kit for the entire range of 924-944-968 cars. After the first round, we added applications for the entire range of 914, 911, and 928, and in this round, we are including applications for the BMW 2002.

Like the 924-944-968 application, the 911/912/914/928 applications utilize twelve, sixteen or twenty-four cheesehead bolts (M8 or M10 diameter, in lengths ranging from 48 to 60mm) to attach the half shafts at the transaxle stub axles and the outer hubs (six bolts per CV joint). As many of you know, the cheese head bolts are a royal PITA to deal with and will strip out if you're not careful. And for track driven cars, there have been multiple reports of the bolts backing out mid-session with catastrophic results. Many guys are safety wiring their bolts, and this was the approach I was planning to take on my UWB project until a 924board member mentioned Stage8 (for a header bolt application).

The Stage8 system utilizes their patented "GrooveLok" bolt, which has a 12-point head and a special groove in the head. Once the fastener is torqued down, any number of clip shapes are available, which lock onto the 12-point bolt head, and are then retained using either an E-clip or snap ring. Here are some photos using the samples they sent to me installed on a late offset 944 CV joint, boot, and outer stub axle:

M8x65 GrooveLok bolt


Teardrop and D-Style clips; snap ring and E-style retainers


D-style clips installed, E-style retainer on left, no retainer on the right (I didn't have a spring plier small enough at home)


Teardrop retainers installed (again, no spring clips, but they would normally have the spring clips installed)


Questions? Interest? Let me know!

ideola

We're up to about 10-11 orders, need about 15-16 to hit minimum for first batch...

ideola

I have just received order #15, so I have enough orders to go through with the initial batch order for this round of the group buy. I will leave this "batch" open until 11 AM EDT tomorrow morning (24 Aug), so if you want to get your bolts sooner rather than later, now is the time to act. Any orders received after 11 AM EDT tomorrow will be put toward the next batch. NO EXCEPTIONS!

ideola

1 hour till cutoff for this batch order!

ideola

Quick update: I spoke with Stage8 today, and they have completed production of the bolts and retainers. They are working on all of the packaging this week and told me expect the shipment to depart California sometime later this week. I will update back here as soon as the shipment has arrived in MI. Once they have arrived at my house, I should be able to get them labeled and shipped to each individual within 24-48 hours.

ideola

The Stage8 bulk shipment was awaiting me when I arrived home from work yesterday. You will be happy to know that I was able to re-package, label, and ship everybody's order. I just dropped them off at the post office moments ago, so your shipments are all underway. All packages were sent by USPS Priority Mail small flat rate box, which has 2-3 day service in the U.S., and 6-10 day service for international destinations.

You should be receiving an automated tracking number notification from either PayPal or USPS within 24 hours. Most of you will probably receive your shipments before you can even track them (yeah, USPS tracking sucks). If you don't receive your notification by this time tomorrow, let me know and I'll look it up manually for you.

Thanks again to all who participated, and be sure to let me know if there's anything else I can do for you. For what it's worth, I recently picked up the Ishihara-Johnson line of crank scrapers for the Porsche 924 and 944 platforms. We're running a introductory special of 10% off all crank scrapers from now through Halloween. You can get all of the details at my website: http://garage.ideola.com

ttAmerica RoadsterAWD

Two year old post, but does anyone have the correct torque specs for these bolts to our cars?

Thanks in advance

ideola

Use the same torque specs as those listed in the FSM for your particular model.

ttAmerica RoadsterAWD

I don't have an FSM......

ideola

I don't have one for your car either. You should be able to get the factory torque specs from someone here or on Pelican for your specific make and model year. For most of the cars I've seen, the torque specs are somewhere between 35-48 foot pound, but you should get the definitive specs for your specific model from a known reliable source.

ThomasC2

Cv joint to flange, 80 Nm.

ttAmerica RoadsterAWD

Thanks all. For anybody needing this info this is what I found out:

For M-10 bolts its 60 ft/lbs
For M-8 bolts its 31 ft/lbs


thanks for your input

Marc Shaw

My WSM says CV joint bolts are: 32 ft-lbs

My post here.

Marc

DWS964

Does anyone have a current source for these bolts or locks or kits? Or other options for locking the CV bolts.

DWS964

Looks like Stage8 has a kit available for two CV joints 12 bolts. The snap ring retainers look like a bit of a difficult install. I believe 8mm=1.25x50mm are correct for my C4 front and rear.
https://www.stage8.com/product/8323-...-bolt-kit-8mm/