How much is my C4 worth totally parted out?
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Don't get nervous folks, just thinking out loud here. But...
I've invested way too much in a car I don't want to invest that much in. Of course I can never sell it for as much as I've put into it, so...I can either drive it until it dies (most likely to happen) or maybe there's a chance for me to recover most (if not all?) of my money by parting out the whole car? So I'm wondering what a 156k mile 1990 C4 would get in parts? Any guesses? The recently serviced motor is strong (haven't done leakdown numbers) but has some oil leaks (not at the heads, but the cam chain covers). Trans seems strong (smooth shifts). Many new bits.
I know this is a rediculous idea, but please indulge me while I work through this catastrophe I've gotten myself into.
Any input would be appreciated.
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I've invested way too much in a car I don't want to invest that much in. Of course I can never sell it for as much as I've put into it, so...I can either drive it until it dies (most likely to happen) or maybe there's a chance for me to recover most (if not all?) of my money by parting out the whole car? So I'm wondering what a 156k mile 1990 C4 would get in parts? Any guesses? The recently serviced motor is strong (haven't done leakdown numbers) but has some oil leaks (not at the heads, but the cam chain covers). Trans seems strong (smooth shifts). Many new bits.
I know this is a rediculous idea, but please indulge me while I work through this catastrophe I've gotten myself into.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Nothing new. I'm just reaching the "every Porsche is $20k" idiom and that's about $5-$7k more than I wanted to spend on a Porsche. So the rest of my life is on hold until I can pay for all of this. I don't want to put the rest of my life on hold. Not for a 156k mile C4.
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"Invest" is the wrong word to use with any non-gold-standard collectible. (And even then things can go wildly wrong..........) I've only casually followed what you've got, and you're right that if you thought buying/fixing/being satisfied with a 964 at the low-teen price point was a mistake. But "parting out"? Sell a window switch here, a fender there..........and think you'll come out ahead of just admitting this isn't what you want?
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A fully parted out car can often bring in more $$$ than selling it as is but there is the reality that the parts may take a long, long time to sell and that unless you sell most of them you may not get as much money as just selling the vehicle as is. Cars are pretty much a money pit any way you look at them...
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If you have the time and tools to part it 'the right way' (i.e. not hacking it to bits) then you can fix most, if not all of the items from the PPI yourself.
With that said, after doing the basic maintenance, IMO you should just sell it and cut your losses.
With that said, after doing the basic maintenance, IMO you should just sell it and cut your losses.
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However, here's the bottom line when it comes to any hobby car: you will end up upside down on them. It's just a question how much you like the car and how perfect you want it to be.
You have daily transportation other than your C4, correct? So you can take your time shopping for parts and fixing things.
To keep the costs reasonable you have to be able to do the lion's share of the work yourself.
You've owned a lot of Porsches so you should be an old pro at owning and maintaining them.
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Seriously, I'm missing something I think - how much have you put into so far, and is it drivable, or is it off the road? Is there something major that's wrong that is keeping you from just driving it? I have a couple leaks, too. These things always have a punch list, whether it's short or long. Maybe I haven't followed the details of your travails closely enough, but why the urge to fall on your sword now?
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Parting it will cause anguish, hard work, greasy fingers all the time and trouble with parts that are not as good/no longer working/not the correct color/broken during disassembly/etc/etc.
You want out? gather your dignity and sell it, as honestly and straight as you can (i.e. very straightforward).
But......
Is it drivable, safely? Can you actually stop spending for now and use it as is, say for 3 months, and then re-assess?
I am going through this myself, and I know the brakes and AC will wait next year. The first have more than enough life until then, the second I can finish the warm days without.
And then even later next year, shocks, bushings, and so on.
What's more, you never know what's going to fall from the rennlist sky to help you (maybe a good deal on a needed part).
You want out? gather your dignity and sell it, as honestly and straight as you can (i.e. very straightforward).
But......
Is it drivable, safely? Can you actually stop spending for now and use it as is, say for 3 months, and then re-assess?
I am going through this myself, and I know the brakes and AC will wait next year. The first have more than enough life until then, the second I can finish the warm days without.
And then even later next year, shocks, bushings, and so on.
What's more, you never know what's going to fall from the rennlist sky to help you (maybe a good deal on a needed part).
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Hobby car is right! I bought my 911SC for $12,750 eight years ago and have since put at least $10,000 into it bringing up to where it should be (completely stock and original). It's probably much more than that but I'm afraid to add up the receipts. Mechanically it is in fantastic shape but high miles.
If I were to sell it today - terrible time to try and sell - I would get at the *most* $12,750.
If I were to sell it today - terrible time to try and sell - I would get at the *most* $12,750.
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Just my thoughts as a new 964 owner, (not trying to patronise as you have more experience than me looking at your sig)
If its a project, a hobby, or a toy, don't look at figures you will never win. Just enjoy it and don't think of it as a car but as an interest. Like all interests the amount you plunge in is never measured as a financial reward, but just by the pleasure from your interest.