9m restoration of "Kermit" (1990 Championship winning 964 Trophy Cup)
01-16-2010, 09:37 AM
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Hi Colin,
As always à real joy to read about your projects.
Race patina or the full monty, hmmm. In My book there is nothing in between, either you do the full job down to every bolt and nut and that somwhat would loose the identityof this car so I guess My vote would be on the patina look even though I like shiny new looking Porsches. Again a real joy...
Best regards
Anders
As always à real joy to read about your projects.
Race patina or the full monty, hmmm. In My book there is nothing in between, either you do the full job down to every bolt and nut and that somwhat would loose the identityof this car so I guess My vote would be on the patina look even though I like shiny new looking Porsches. Again a real joy...
Best regards
Anders
01-16-2010, 10:17 AM
#65
Drifting
While I certainly understand the idea of retaining the patina, I vote for full-boat restoration for the following reasons:
1. A good portion of the original patina will be lost due to the work already being performed.
2. The history of the car will be further preserved, and you can add your own patina over time.
3. Your work is outstanding, and I'd like to enjoy it via this thread...(I still have the article detailing the 993 RSR project!).
We look forward to updates regardless of whichever route you take.
1. A good portion of the original patina will be lost due to the work already being performed.
2. The history of the car will be further preserved, and you can add your own patina over time.
3. Your work is outstanding, and I'd like to enjoy it via this thread...(I still have the article detailing the 993 RSR project!).
We look forward to updates regardless of whichever route you take.
01-16-2010, 01:12 PM
#67
Drifting
Maybe it's me, and then again. However, I simply cannot get my head around why someone would want to go to all these lengths to "rebuild" a car, and then stop halfway, as if it makes some kind of difference to future values? why would it? I simply don't understand.
kevin
kevin
01-16-2010, 07:20 PM
#68
Rennlist Member
If the sun comes out tomorrow as promised, I may just do that for you and post the photos on another thread.
But do you seriously think you would be interested in a 9m93RS engine rebuild, 993GT2 interior restoration, 993 Speedster conversion, 964 Speedster hood refit, 964 Speedster brake & engine package (yup, 3 Speedsters!!), 964RS body & wheelarch restoration, 1978 Martini 930 restoration, 996GT3 repair, 996 respray, 911SC front end resto, E36 M3 Evo track car build, two 993 engine into 911 3.2 transplants, Boxster S engine rebuild and a 9m64RS conversion ???
But do you seriously think you would be interested in a 9m93RS engine rebuild, 993GT2 interior restoration, 993 Speedster conversion, 964 Speedster hood refit, 964 Speedster brake & engine package (yup, 3 Speedsters!!), 964RS body & wheelarch restoration, 1978 Martini 930 restoration, 996GT3 repair, 996 respray, 911SC front end resto, E36 M3 Evo track car build, two 993 engine into 911 3.2 transplants, Boxster S engine rebuild and a 9m64RS conversion ???
Last edited by Barty964rst; 01-18-2010 at 03:28 PM.
01-17-2010, 03:39 PM
#69
Burning Brakes
No, I agree, not too painful for you Mr H.
Although that said, I would really like to know why it appears to most that instead of having something constructive to add, your sole intent was to prove me wrong? If this was the case, even though we've seen each other at events often enough for you to air your views privately, could I ask you to take the time out to send me a pm and explain why this approach was necessary?
No more to add, thank you.
Although that said, I would really like to know why it appears to most that instead of having something constructive to add, your sole intent was to prove me wrong? If this was the case, even though we've seen each other at events often enough for you to air your views privately, could I ask you to take the time out to send me a pm and explain why this approach was necessary?
No more to add, thank you.
H
Last edited by Atgani; 01-17-2010 at 03:55 PM.
01-26-2010, 03:06 PM
#70
I went for the full hog, well without acid strip. You do lose a bit of patia but the car looks great.
My view is avoid the acid and do top class repray on outside but retain Matter stickers and production nos in the original state on inside. It should only require tidy up of floors and side bars to look good.
I had airjack cylinders fitted too. Not original on the 90 car but it is the time to put them in if you will ever do classic races. I use the car so was to save effort in the pits.
How are the graphics going? You need to do them for Spa!
Charles
My view is avoid the acid and do top class repray on outside but retain Matter stickers and production nos in the original state on inside. It should only require tidy up of floors and side bars to look good.
I had airjack cylinders fitted too. Not original on the 90 car but it is the time to put them in if you will ever do classic races. I use the car so was to save effort in the pits.
How are the graphics going? You need to do them for Spa!
Charles
02-24-2010, 03:53 PM
#72
cup No.7
Another pic of V. Columbo's No. 7 car. I don't have Vin for no.7 but I do for Car no. 5 and it is VIN WPOZZZ96ZLS409005. So it is quite possible no.7 is VIN WPOZZZ96ZLS409007
Max Moritz may be able to confirm who raced which Signal green Cup. Manthey or Columbo?
Just need to solve the riddle of why No. 33 was White then Green in 1990 series.
It is green on the poster but in the early races it is White.
Max Moritz may be able to confirm who raced which Signal green Cup. Manthey or Columbo?
Just need to solve the riddle of why No. 33 was White then Green in 1990 series.
It is green on the poster but in the early races it is White.
02-24-2010, 05:44 PM
#73
I have LS409033. It was white when I got it and according to Porsche it was originally GP white; it's signal orange now. I don't recall any trace of green, but it's an old racecar and has had more than one repaint in my hands alone. If the race number corresponded to the chassis numbers, that would be interesting...
02-25-2010, 05:03 PM
#74
Cup no. 33 Manthey
It could be the Manthey Cup then? No.33
2nd pic is the No.7 Signal green car in the same race from 1990.
2nd pic is the No.7 Signal green car in the same race from 1990.
Last edited by chfs911; 02-25-2010 at 05:06 PM. Reason: correction
02-27-2010, 04:23 PM
#75
Checked some more of my 1990 archive and Kuemmehling sponsored 2 cars. 21 H. Bernartz
and 33 O. Manthey.
Cars swapped nos. for at least 2 races. Maybe signal one was being repaired?
My money is still on V. Columbo driving the 007 car.
and 33 O. Manthey.
Cars swapped nos. for at least 2 races. Maybe signal one was being repaired?
My money is still on V. Columbo driving the 007 car.