So I started out wanting to buy a new suspension consisting of HR/Billstein.
But as it sometime goes with such project things has escalated a bit.
I bought original RS suspension instead as a good deal presented itself.
Then I had to buy monoballs/camberplates for all corners.
But now I'm thinking, what about all the bushes.
This must be the time to replace them with the polyurethane counterpart.
So I guess I need at least the following:

Polyurethane Bushes:
Front lover control arms, set of four. (Can hopefully still get them from Chris Walrod)
Rear lover control arms, set of two.

For the following parts, I am in doubt of wether or not I should replace them, and if they should be replaced, should I then buy regular rubber parts or polyurethane bushes:
Front/rear stabiliser bar mounting, set of two.
Front/rear stabiliser bar links, set of two.

What is your experience with these parts?
Am I missing some important bushes?

 

 

Till the racers check in, I'll say I like my Chris Walrod's.

 

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Andreas

 

where could one obtain Chris' products?

 

If Chris Walrod makes a great polyurethane replacement, then go for it.

I have monoballs but my 964 is a race car...I might drive it in the occasional parade or to a breakfast meet a few times a year...what fun on Motons/800+lb springs and monoballs!

If you have a 964 that you just want to make "sporty" and carve corners, do "spirited" drives, I absolutely suggest just going a PSS9 route or something similar like Bilstein HD shocks and H&R sport/lowering springs.

If you are taking your 964 to the track quite a bit, maybe even driving it to the track, then an RS suspension or greater, with some good polyurethane bushings are appropriate indeed.

Anything beyond that, break the bank, ca$h in the 401K, refinance the home...whatever you need to do to get a set of Motons/JRZ/Etc. and monoball the car, do this, do that, solid trans./engine mounts...it's a slippery slope!

 

Hi guys, I still do offer these control arm bushings as a kit. I dont advertise or talk about them much but they are indeed available.

Pm me if you'd like to order.

For our EU residents, Gert at www.carnewal.com also carries these bushings and grease.
Another option for our CONUS folks, Jason at Paragon Products offers these as well.

 

Thanks for the feedback, but no one really answered what I was in doubt of

For the following parts, I am in doubt of wether or not I should replace them, and if they should be replaced, should I then buy regular rubber parts or polyurethane bushes:
Front/rear stabiliser bar mounting, set of two.
Front/rear stabiliser bar links, set of two.
Am I missing some important bushes?

Anyone?

Any yes, its being used both on and off track, but never as a daily driver.

 

PM sent...

 

To answer your question as directly as possible: It depends on your demands, your butt, and your a-arm bushing's 'age'. (I won't delve into sway bars. It'd be my *opinion* these would be second-order handling effects compared to front a-arm bushes.)

Street driving and your butt says, "fine, as-is."... Likely not a need.

The more demanding your coursework and butt... The more likely your perceived need.

I have heard (and seen video) of 'aged' 964 bushings going south and introducing/providing 'wobbly' tremors into braking turn-ins. (The bushings were no longer firmly affixed to core and surrounding collar. The rubber was partially disconnected. Visible braking shudders to the arm assy were the result.)

When I replaced mine with poly's at 100k, they were still plenty fine six months ago. Rubber was still monolithic, and firmly attached to surroundings.
Street driving, I can't rightly tell poly's are on. But I 'know' there's less a-arm compliance with poly's in place. And I haven't yet been on the track with them. So my butt is not my driving reason to change at this time. Peace of mind is the best rationale I can muster for my own reasons.

Good luck with your decision.

 

When I did the front bushings in my car at 95k, the old ones looked okay. But under heavy braking at the track, I was getting some weird wobbling, like elbee said, that went away after replacing with Chris's bushings. So I am very happy. Ymmv.

 

I've changed them all except the big one in the rear swing arms and I don't regret it. Do it if you do the rest, and it's a cheap fix compared to the springs and dampers.Especially the A-arm bushings we're really soft compared to the poly.ones even though they looked OK.

 

=>Thomas: You live in Sweden as I do, so I am a little interested in hearing where you bought your bushes from?

By the way Chris, thanks for the link to www.carnewal.com.
I will order the front A-arm bushes there, hope you got a good deal for all your work.

 

From Forza.se

 

Michael, I have an extra set of the Walrod bushes that I ordered last summer. I assume they are the same for the 993 and 964's. I don't know what Gert charges but PM me if you are interested.