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Old 09-09-2008, 12:48 PM
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Question A few questions on exhaust changes...

Some of you know that I want to go with a dual exhaust setup... so I have now the side bumper factory part with the exhaust cut out to replace the unit currently there.

Question is, should I do a complete exhaust system with headers and eliminate the heaters? Along with the heater blower that is in the engine bay? Any impact to the A/C system if I do that?

Or should I leave the stock headers alone and just do the dual exhaust?

Lastly, anyone with a similar setup (headers without heat but still A/C working) that can show me a few photos?
Old 09-09-2008, 12:53 PM
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Found one photo in the Fabspeed site...



Would be nice to see an engine bay photo with A/C but without the heater blower...
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What are you trying to achieve? If more power, get rid of the heat exchangers, they are inefficient. If it's for looks and sound, I would keep them. Do you ever use the heater in your car?

Here's some photos of my set up (no heat, no A/C, hollow muffler, pretty much straight pipes):









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Ilko, combination of looks, loose a bit of weight in the process if possible, and sound.

Car will never see a track, so not to keen on looking for that last hp increase...
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You'll definitely lose weight by removing the heat exchangers, but your comfort may suffer as well. My advice is to go with the "1 in, 2 out" muffler. Also, whichever decision you make, be sure you are OK with the noise level. I have to wear earplugs in my car if I have the windows down, because it is LOUD
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That's what the windshield is for!
Old 09-09-2008, 02:30 PM
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Jaime I want to go the same route but with heat!. I am a woos even in our warm winters
I am thinking one in 2 out setup. Where did you get the left side outlet?
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For street only, you may want to consider the Fabspeed dual outlet cat back exhaust. I have the single outlet on my car and it looks good and is plenty loud enough for me. Saves a fair amount of weight, not sure about power gains.
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Originally Posted by jimq
Jaime I want to go the same route but with heat!. I am a woos even in our warm winters
I am thinking one in 2 out setup. Where did you get the left side outlet?
Factory part, remember I have a wide body, so same part as in the 964 Turbo.

For the narrow body cars your best bet is to order one from FVD. When I called Sunset Imports I checked availability for narrow and wide body cars... Chet is also looking to buy one. FVD has it for US$261.00

964 Twin Exhaust Left Rear Valance
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thats a good price. I looked last year and it was over $400 at a couple other places. I dont really want louder then my gpipe is now if possible.
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The Fabspeed single in / dual out muffler is loud and it resonates at cruise RPM. The Fabspeed headers with heat and two in / two out muffler sounds awesome. It sounds like a mechanically injected 3.0l car but is not nearly as loud as the single in / dual out.

Headers can make a performance improvement, but there is a large difference between the headers. Some will lose power and some will gain power depending on the engine configuration.
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Geoffery, my single in and dual out FabSpeed doesn't resonate but it is pretty loud so I am not sure there is a difference in the two? With the windows up though the sound is great IMHO and you can talk on the phone. With the windows down the sound is even better!
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Either one of the setups that I am considering will come from Fabspeed. I will either go with their catback dual tip option or the full header 2into2 system. Not looking elsewhere for an exhaust.

The feedback I am looking for is if it is better to go no-heat (and also remove the heater fan in the engine bay) vs heat.

I lived through the 996TT without mufflers and with hi-flow 100cell cats... I doubt either of the setups that I want for the 964 will be louder than that...

Also, my current setup is a fabspeed cat bypass, stock primary, G-Pipe (deleted secondary), stock exhaust tip. Oh! and holes in the intake cover...
Old 09-09-2008, 05:09 PM
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Jaime, I would keep the heat on a street car. You know it can get all the way down to 50 or even lower in Orlando...and the locals think that is cold!

But seriously I do like the ability to set a temperature for the cabin and forget about it in the winter.


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