Notices
964 Forum 1989-1994
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

9M mmmm

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-19-2008, 12:01 AM
  #1  
Geoffrey
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Geoffrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kingston, NY
Posts: 8,305
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default 9M mmmm

Some pictures of the 9M USA kit installed with Cams, ported heads, exhaust and top end rebuild.


Old 06-19-2008, 12:58 AM
  #2  
elbeee964
Nordschleife Master
 
elbeee964's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: S.E. VA
Posts: 5,405
Received 74 Likes on 51 Posts
Talking

Though my ignorance of your engine management system is profound... I Do understand your hood's lift management system. I think. Heh.

(Vise grip use #3,267,352 ?)

Last edited by elbeee964; 06-19-2008 at 01:14 AM.
Old 06-19-2008, 04:49 AM
  #3  
Millemiglia
Racer
 
Millemiglia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 432
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Looks great!
Excellent detailing.
Old 06-19-2008, 07:06 AM
  #4  
Christer
Race Car
 
Christer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: London, UK
Posts: 4,922
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

That looks *very* familiar.....
Old 06-19-2008, 07:26 AM
  #5  
Greg_L
Burning Brakes
 
Greg_L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Windsor, England
Posts: 938
Received 13 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Looking good!
Don't forget about that cloth in the bottom right though
Old 06-19-2008, 07:56 AM
  #6  
Bill Verburg
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Bill Verburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 12,316
Received 537 Likes on 372 Posts
Default

Geoffrey, an explanation of what we are looking at please?

specs?

results?
Old 06-19-2008, 08:53 AM
  #7  
Geoffrey
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Geoffrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kingston, NY
Posts: 8,305
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

I Do understand your hood's lift management system. I think.
Don't forget about that cloth in the bottom right though
I think you do! The new hood prop rods haven't come in yet, nor has the new power steering hose so the rag is keeping any drips off the new powder coated engine tin.

The car is a stock 91 that came in for a top end rebuild, brake, suspension, some interior and exterior updates. This is the first of the two 9M conversion cars we have.

The engine has rebuilt heads with 993 valves, performance springs and retianers, and we lightly ported the intake and exhaust ports. We have optimized the stock compression as best as we can without cutting cylinders down. We installed the new 9M for USA camshaft which is a newer updated design, Fabspeed complete header system with single muffler outlet, and the MoTeC kit. I updated the 9M wiring harness so now there are no wires cut from the factory wire harness in the installation and it can go back to stock if someone wanted to run Motronics and have it mapped for the modified engine, or turn the engine back to stock and run the stock programming.

The black box with "MoTeC" on it is the 9M 964 conversion box which allows the M48 to connect to the factory DME wire harness without any modification. The Gold box is the MoTeC ECU, and between the two is a barometric pressure sensor so the engine run consistently regardless of weather and altitude pressure differences.

There is an added MAP sensor in the engine compartment which will be used as the load factor in the main fuel and ignition timing tables rather than the AFM which has been discarded. There is an air temp sensor in the MoTeC pipe to replace the air temp sensor in the AFM which is needed in a speed density system to calculate the mass of air going through the engine.

results?
Maybe, I haven't decided yet...
Old 06-19-2008, 09:22 AM
  #8  
Bill Verburg
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Bill Verburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 12,316
Received 537 Likes on 372 Posts
Default

was the vacuum actuated manifold flap retained?
Old 06-19-2008, 09:27 AM
  #9  
Geoffrey
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Geoffrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kingston, NY
Posts: 8,305
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

The resonsnace flap and associated canister has been retained and will be used. This is a key component for power above 5500rpm on a standard engine. On a blueprinted Cup engine dyno results show a 30hp loss at 6500rpm from deactivating the resonsnace flap to keep it closed.
Old 06-19-2008, 10:22 AM
  #10  
Ant71
Intermediate
 
Ant71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Reading UK
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Looks great! so how much BHP can you expect now?
Old 06-19-2008, 10:54 AM
  #11  
Geoffrey
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Geoffrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kingston, NY
Posts: 8,305
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

whatever the Internet experts say...
Old 06-19-2008, 11:37 AM
  #12  
Bill Verburg
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Bill Verburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 12,316
Received 537 Likes on 372 Posts
Default

Looks nice and neat, how does the Motec interface/ interact w/ the gauges? ignition key?, alarms? remote doorlock actuation?
Old 06-19-2008, 11:46 AM
  #13  
Geoffrey
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Geoffrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kingston, NY
Posts: 8,305
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Everything works the same except for the Porsche System Tester or "Hammer" access to the ECU which obviously isn't there any longer. The alarm will still deactivate the MoTeC ECU with the anti drive off feature. I don't know what happens on a car with the trip computer though. I'm not sure if it the trip computer will still function.
Old 06-19-2008, 12:47 PM
  #14  
kgorman
Drifting
 
kgorman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 2,482
Received 41 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

Wow, interesting work. In terms of the 9m cam, how is idle and all the traditional 'rough spots' when using aftermarket cams? I am sure 9m did it right, I am just asking..
Old 06-19-2008, 12:59 PM
  #15  
LA964RS
Drifting
 
LA964RS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,300
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

How much $

Will it pass smog in CA?


Quick Reply: 9M mmmm



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:29 AM.