Wachuko

Thank you. So it could be an Turbo S from the 1992 run.... gotcha. If it is then it is a real shame they made those mods to it...

cobalt

The S2 is a peculiar model. These were brought into the country as stock 3.3l turbos and sent to Andial for some minor tweaking. Unfortunately, even the white one in the picture I posted was modified rendering it no better than a modified 3.3l car. Unless the engine work done by Andial is still in tact there is no reason to pay additional money for an S2 over a 92 turbo. The only real way to keep these cars valuable is not to touch or drive them or to have swapped out the engine and replace it with a modified engine so if you sell it the original Andial engine is in tact.

Most 964 turbos can easily exceed the HP output of the S2 with bolt on mods and there are no other changes to the car other than what Andial did to the engine.

DonnieG

Wow thanks for all the input. I spoke with the dealer today and he did indicate it is a conversion. He also said that it is a original Turbo S model, 1 of 20 units made. He also stated that it would cost around $12,000 to $13,000 to convert it back to the original nose. He seemed to be very straight forward. Would the title or vin number indicate if it is a true Turbo S Car?
Thanks
DonnieG

38D

12-13k would not be enough. You'd need to cut off the rear fenders at the factory spot welds, which would be big $s. And then you'd have non original paint. So, you spend $79k to buy the car, lets say $20k to convert it back to original, and you'd end up with a car worth $45k. Again, this is a Turbo S2, not a Turbo S...there is a huge difference.

DonnieG

12-13k would not be enough. You'd need to cut off the rear fenders at the factory spot welds, which would be big $s. And then you'd have non original paint. So, you spend $79k to buy the car, lets say $20k to convert it back to original, and you'd end up with a car worth $45k. Again, this is a Turbo S2, not a Turbo S...there is a huge difference.
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Sounds like I need to stay away from this car. Thanks for all the help.
DonnieG

cobalt

If you are looking for a collector this is not the car. If it were one of the 20 S2's Which I highly doubt it is no longer even worth mentioning as 1 of 20. This car has been stripped of its provenance when they modified it so extensively.

If you like the looks of the 94 turbo S flachbau then it is not bad for a heck of a lot less then the $120 or so min that it would take to buy a real one. I would not pay over $60k for it no matter what your interests and that is only after careful scrutiny and it being 100% perfect.

911addict

The S did have the 993TT style wing (without the rubber).

Bull

In a word....RUN!

StickShift964

the fact they call the techart bodykit on that 996T w/ x50, "RARE" means they are playing with words to draw in uneducated buys and suckering them into paying wayyyy to much.

cobalt

The ROW 92 turbo S did have a smaller wing without the rubber. It looked like the flachbau with a smaller wing and stock front fenders. The US S2 had the stock tail, there was absolutely nothing changed to the cosmetics of the car. The picture of the white car I posted is a 1992 US turbo S2.

KirkF

Does anyone watching this thread actually have a turbo S or access to a turbo s?

I would love detailed pictures of the rear fenders with a measuring tape to show where those duct inlets sit in the fender. Also I would like to know how they ran those ducts into the engine compartment.

kirk

cobalt

You would need detailed pictures of both side as they are different right to left. There are several Flachbau owners on this forum including Mark of www.flachbau.com

There was a set of fiberglass fenders with the ducts on ebay the other day I believe it was under porsche 965

KirkF

I will have to drop a note to him and see if I can get some pics. Looking at my engine compartment I have no idea how they routed the air in there!

Kirk

jim dorociak

I have some pictures of the last Turbo S cars produced from the factory. If I can figure how to post and if picture size is not too large. Jim

jim dorociak

Are those Speedlines beautiful?
I was going to have a set of flat nose fenders made, but have pulled the plug. They are available should someone want to pursue them please write to me for a price. Jim
It is going to take a real man to step up to this plate.